Christian Women - Its not your fault!!

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The Bible convicts women as the original sinners, (i.e. Eve picking from the forbidden tree){Genesis 2:4-3:24}. The Qur'an clarifies it was Adam not Eve {Al-A'raf 7:19-25}.

The Bible says "The birth of a daughter is a loss." The Qur'an says both are an equal blessing {Ash-Shura 42:49}.

The Bible forbids women from speaking in church {I Corinthians 14:34-35}. The Qur'an says women can argue with the Prophet (SAW) {Al-Mujadilah 58:1}.

In the Bible, divorced women are labeled as an adulteress, not men {Matthew 5:31-32}. The Quran does not have Biblical double standards {Ar-Rum 30:21}.

In the Bible, widows and sisters do not inherit any property or wealth, only men do {Numbers 27:1-11}. The Quran abolished this male greediness {An-Nisa 4:22} and Allah (SWT) protects all.

The Bible allows multiple wives {I Kings 11:3}. In the Quran, Allah (SWT) limits the number to four only under certain situations. {An-Nisa 4:3}. The Quran gives the woman the right to choose who to marry.

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You forgot to mention how Islam treats uncovered women as "little better than uncovered meat". That's an exact quote from a high ranking Australian muslim.

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Wilso wrote:

You forgot to mention how Islam treats uncovered women as "little better than uncovered meat". That's an exact quote from a high ranking Australian muslim.

Well think about it, ever heard the term "cattle market" before

The truth is women in the western world are slaves to society. they think they have to reveal themselves for attention or self esteem, thinking this is the only way they will be noticed or fit in.

In essence, they are like meat on the market, ready for the next perve to leer and lust of them.

Do you not think women are treated as sex objects? Generally these women, how do they dress?

The truth is the hijab, liberates a women from these issues.

Very Happy

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You know something Abid. You are not convincing anyone. NOBODY on this forum is going to convert to Islam because of the rubbish you are constantly pouring on it. And you are not contributing to the understanding of islam. In fact, you are directly contributing to the dislike and misunderstanding of it.

One question I would like you to answer. Do you happen to live in an islamic paradise? Or are you hypocrite who lives in the west and takes advantage of the freedom that islamic nations deny their citizens?

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Wilso wrote:

You know something Abid. You are not convincing anyone. NOBODY on this forum is going to convert to Islam because of the rubbish you are constantly pouring on it. And you are not contributing to the understanding of islam. In fact, you are directly contributing to the dislike and misunderstanding of it.

One question I would like you to answer. Do you happen to live in an islamic paradise? Or are you hypocrite who lives in the west and takes advantage of the freedom that islamic nations deny their citizens?

Speak for yourself not others.
Very Happy

You have no idea about what others are thinking or feeling!!!

Yes I live in the west, I was born here so not really my choice!!!

I plan to imigrate to a muslim country as soon as I have enough funds godwilling!!!

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Abid wrote:

I plan to imigrate to a muslim country as soon as I have enough funds godwilling!!!

Good. You won't be missed.

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Wilso wrote:

Abid wrote:

I plan to imigrate to a muslim country as soon as I have enough funds godwilling!!!

Good. You won't be missed.

LOL. Again, how do you know?

I have many friends and family, Many of whom aren't even Muslim, do you know what they are feeling too???

Dont get angry!!!

BTW, im sure I will have internet so we can continue our insightful discussions!!!
Laughing

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All we have to do is wait for you to say something insightful, instead of the superstitious drivel you constantly pour out.

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Wilso wrote:

All we have to do is wait for you to say something insightful, instead of the superstitious drivel you constantly pour out.

Sigh....

Leave these threads for the people who are believers then Wilso, if you think its 'superstitious drivel'!!

This may be more you're cup of tea.
Check out
What scientists says about Islam
http://www.able2know.com/forums/about89031.html

It always amazes me that whatever the topic regarding Islam on this "religious & Spirituality" forum, the atheists always seem to throw down the same crap you have been spewing out on EVERY SINGLE thread!!!

Why dont you just stick it all on one thread called 'What I Hate about Islam' and stop filling pages and pages of the same stuff on threads that are about something completely different!!!

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Religion is doing so much damage to the world, that we can't let our guard down. So I and other atheists will continue to read and post on "your" threads, and provide a rational voice in the face of this insane belief in magic. And if you don't like it, I'm sure there's forums that are exclusively for weak minded, superstitious garbage that you like to post. I'm sure they will welcome you.

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I can smell the FEAR!!!!

Laughing

So basically whenever any topic is introduced between to fiaths for discussion, you will just argue that we should be discussing this in the first place!!!!

LOL

Good one

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Speaking as a woman, and as a woman who once spent some time in a Muslim country, I wake up every day and thank God I was not born a Muslim woman and that I live in a country that will not force me to become one. I will also not be forced to become a Christian woman, at least not for now.

Abid I have seen videos (taken by a student living with a family) of Muslim women and their daughters eating the scraps off a table when the men have finished. I have seen them gnaw on empty bones like dogs because that is what their men leave for them. These women have are isolated and have no control over their lives. They depend on men for everything because they are refused education. I know it is not true of Muslim women around the world, but if fanatics like you were in control that would be the fate of women.

I will also not debate you on this issue, because to debate a fanatic such as you is futile.

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Green Witch wrote:

Speaking as a woman, and as a woman who once spent some time in a Muslim country, I wake up every day and thank God I was not born a Muslim woman and that I live in a country that will not force me to become one. I will also not be forced to become a Christian woman, at least not for now.

Abid I have seen videos (taken by a student living with a family) of Muslim women and their daughters eating the scraps off a table when the men have finished. I have seen them gnaw on empty bones like dogs because that is what their men leave for them. These women have are isolated and have no control over their lives. They depend on men for everything because they are refused education. I know it is not true of Muslim women around the world, but if fanatics like you were in control that would be the fate of women.

I will also not debate you on this issue, because to debate a fanatic such as you is futile.

Do not judge a religion by its followers as not all are the same.

The Qur'an states regarding women, 'They are garments for you and you are garments for them.'

As a garment gives protection, warmth, comfort and decency, so too a husband and wife offer each other intimacy, comfort and protection from committing adultery.

here is what Islam says regarding the matter

The Holy Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) also said, 'Paradise is beneath the feet of your mother.'

Hadhrat Abu Hurayra (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) says that a man asked the Holy Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam), 'Who is worthier of my good treatment?' The Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) replied, 'Your mother (which he repeated three times), then your father."

Source: http://www.jamiat.org.za/isinfo/ewomen.html

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Abid wrote:

As a garment gives protection, warmth, comfort and decency, so too a husband and wife offer each other intimacy, comfort and protection from committing adultery.

(sort of breaking my debate rule, but I do want to know)

So why don't men wear a veil and/or burka? Aren't men as tempting to a woman as a woman is to a man? Why do only women get covered as if they are wearing a shroud?

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Abid wrote:

I can smell the FEAR!!!!

So basically whenever any topic is introduced between to fiaths for discussion, you will just argue that we should be discussing this in the first place!!!!

LOL

Good one

Of course I'm fearful of fanatics like you. It's your like that fly planes into buildings and bomb school buses.

I have as much right to question FAITH, as you've got to discuss it. So you'd better get used to it loser, because we're not going to go away.

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Wilso wrote:

Abid wrote:
I can smell the FEAR!!!!

So basically whenever any topic is introduced between to fiaths for discussion, you will just argue that we should be discussing this in the first place!!!!

LOL

Good one

Of course I'm fearful of fanatics like you. It's your like that fly planes into buildings and bomb school buses.

I have as much right to question FAITH, as you've got to discuss it. So you'd better get used to it loser, because we're not going to go away.

Heard of the proverbial broken record?

If only you knew who I work for.

Then you really would be scared!!!!
Laughing

Im not questioning you're right to discuss faith, by all means knock yourself out.
all im saying is why dont you create a thread for that purpose as it is not relevent on this one!!
Duh!!!!!

"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him and he will be one of the losers in the Hereafter." (Quran, 3:85)

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Abid wrote:

"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him and he will be one of the losers in the Hereafter." (Quran, 3:85)

Prove it.

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Relax Wilso, you're feeding the crocodile. Go do something to make the world a better place. Give you wife a hug, bring flowers to work. This person is not worth the energy you are giving him.

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Wilso,
you should heed her advice.

there is no need to get personal. Nor throw insults.

Name calling is a little immature. I though atheists were tolerant caring folk.

True colours? - Pot calling kettle!!!

Im not hiding, I am just amused at you're views.

you are making innuendos about someone you know nothing about!!

Pathetic insults, are you going to slander my mother next!!!!!!

Laughing

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Green Witch wrote:

Abid wrote:

"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him and he will be one of the losers in the Hereafter." (Quran, 3:85)

Prove it.

Well the only time you will know for sure is when you finally expire and the Angels question you in your grave. Only then will you see that we were speaking the truth, but it will be too late for you to repent nonetheless.

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