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Bring David Hicks home (from Guantanamo) before Christmas!

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 19 Mar, 2007 06:42 am
Builder wrote:
Poor bastard. Sad


Yep. Sad

Then you get the "official" response about how well he's being treated & how all due care is being taken & how fibs have been told in the past about his treatment ..... Sigh.
Shocking thought, to have so little control over one's own life for so long.
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Builder
 
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Reply Mon 19 Mar, 2007 06:55 am
http://www.cavycareinc.org/magaine_cover.jpg

http://www.cavycareinc.org/magaine_cover.jpg

I'm not so sure I'd like to be a test pilot.

The lies about lots of things regarding supposed POW's, or non-combatant protesters has been redifined recently. Apparently suspicion of involvement in revolt results in immediate incarceration, and apparent mental and physical torture. I mean it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye, but............
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 19 Mar, 2007 06:58 am
Sigh.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 19 Mar, 2007 08:44 am
He will likely return to Oz at some point. He will be rehabilitated, and eventually released. Then he'll kill a bunch of people.
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 19 Mar, 2007 05:46 pm
... or perhaps, when he finally does get to return home, he'll be a basket case, a burnt out vegetable, who'll spend the rest of his life trying to regain some semblance of sanity?
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 19 Mar, 2007 06:08 pm
Seems that David Hicks has almost no idea idea of the efforts that are being made on his behalf in the Australian Supreme Court. I find it rather amazing, too, the apparent lack of allowed access to his lawyers ... particularly with the first (US military) hearing scheduled for this coming Monday. A helluva lot of work to be done between now & then!:

Last Update: Tuesday, March 20, 2007. 7:33am (AEDT)

Australian lawyer to meet Hicks at Guantanamo Bay

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200607/r93739_281635.jpg
David McLeod will meet David Hicks for the first time since he was charged. (File photo) (ABC TV)

Australian lawyer David McLeod will meet Guantanamo Bay detainee David Hicks this weekend to discuss the impending trial by a US military commission.

It will be the first time the two have spoken since the South Australian was charged with providing material support for terrorism.

Hicks will face a preliminary hearing next Monday.

"I haven't seen David since he was charged," Mr McLeod said.

"Neither have two of the other team and we need to go through with him all the ramifications of the charge and of course the military commission process that will be convened on the 26th to deal with it - so there's a lot to talk about," he said.


Mr McLeod is travelling to Washington today to prepare the defence with Hicks's American team and on Saturday will travel to Guantanamo Bay to see his client.

He says he will also tell Hicks about the case in the Federal Court where the Government has been accused of failing in its duty of care.

"We also need to talk to him about his Australian Federal Court proceedings and he's not aware of the win that he had in the court a couple of weeks ago where the court threw out the challenge to David's case, so there's a number of things he has to be brought up to date with," he said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200703/s1876304.htm
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 05:19 am
Hicks father nervous about reunion
March 22, 2007 - 11:34AM/the AGE

The father of Australian terrorism suspect David Hicks says he's "a bit apprehensive" about seeing his son for the first time in more than three years.

(David Hicks)is facing a charge of providing material support for terrorism, with a preliminary hearing set for Guantanamo Bay on Monday.

His father, Terry Hicks, will fly to Cuba for the hearing and says he has no idea of Hicks' mental state or how he will look after more than three years.

"I'm probably a bit apprehensive," Mr Hicks told Southern Cross Broadcasting today.

"We don't know what condition David's in, mentally or physically, so we've got to think about that and what the reaction's going to be."

Mr Hicks said he would "play it by ear" when he came face to face with his son.

He said he was expecting to be closely monitored during his time in Guantanamo Bay.

"If it's anything like last time, it's pretty full on," Mr Hicks said. "As soon as you set foot in the place, you have a minder that follows you around all over the place making sure you're not putting your nose in where it's not wanted."

Mr Hicks said his son's US military lawyer Major Michael Mori had yet to brief him about Monday's hearing, but he expected to speak to him on the day of the proceedings.

But he was expecting the hearing to take a heavy toll, he said.

"It's going to be very emotional and the stress will come after," he said.


Mr Hicks, who has seen the campaign for justice for his son swell to a clamour in recent months, paid tribute to his supporters.

He said the campaign had assumed a much wider significance.

"This is not about David Hicks any more," Mr Hicks said.

"It's about human rights issues, a fair go and a proper court system for Australian citizens if they get into trouble overseas."

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/hicks-father-nervous-about-reunion/2007/03/22/1174153214352.html
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Builder
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 06:22 am
msolga wrote:
... or perhaps, when he finally does get to return home, he'll be a basket case, a burnt out vegetable, who'll spend the rest of his life trying to regain some semblance of sanity?


Hear, hear.

This is the issue that most debators avoid.

David has been a guinea pig for a bunch of sadistic foookers.

He's had nothing like a natural happy life for more than five fookin years.


Can you get your head around that? Five long years looking at the walls of a cell just long enough to house a pub pool table, with no walking space around it.

Get it now?

Walk a mile in his shoes. Not that he's allowed to walk a mile.
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 06:38 am
Builder, I'm always a bit taken aback at the folk who talk of what a [Idangerous[/I] person he is ... will we be able to control his dangerous activities if he returns to Oz? ..... etc, etc, etc ... When he's most likely just a wreck of a human being now. How could a person experience what he's gone through for the past five years & be anything like his former self?

Anyway, we'll find out soon enough how he's faring. His lawyers will no doubt be reporting back on his condition, as will his father.

So the hearing will be on this coming Monday. That's when it'll have to be decided whether he intends pleading guilty or not in his court case, I believe. Poor bugger.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 06:51 am
This looks like fun.

http://www.kosovo.net/hicks.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 06:57 am
Have seen that photograph many times. It was used again & again in the Oz media to demonize David Hicks in the first few years of his incarceration.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 06:58 am
He could have been holding a water pistol and they'd have gotten the same result.
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 07:01 am
Not sure of what you mean there. It was obviously a posed photograph, which looked suitably incriminating for media purposes.
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Builder
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 07:07 am
cjhsa wrote:
He could have been holding a water pistol and they'd have gotten the same result.


Funny you should say that, c J.

http://www.wellcoolstuff.com/got_coke.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 07:12 am
Hey, you two go fight it out somewhere else!
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 07:18 am
As usual builder fails to construct anything useful as his link is blocked by 99.999% of corporate firewalls.
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 07:23 am
Go back to your gun thread, cjhsa. Not interested.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 07:37 am
I was on topic.... and this is the Internet... hmmmm.
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vikorr
 
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Reply Fri 23 Mar, 2007 04:08 pm
I had a police officer friend who, while in cambodia, fired a M-60 (apparently you can pay the army there to have a play with one). He showed me a photo of him firing the gun.

I saw a video, purportedly made in Texas, of an American Citizen firing a chain gun at an old car.

Now as I've said previously, from what I know, I think Hicks should be incarcerated, but for me, it must be done according to law...that said... the showing of that photo as if it has a great deal of meaning is just silly.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 24 Mar, 2007 12:12 am
Hi vikorr

I understand your position on David Hicks, though (obviously) I have a different one.

I'm interested, though .... Do you think (from your perspective) that it would be reasonable that he face further punishment despite having spent more than 5 years already at Guantanamo Bay? From my perspective, those 5 years are more than sufficient, especially given the wishy-washy nature of the one remaining charge against him.
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