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Zappa on Free Speech (13 anniversary of his passing)

 
 
Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:35 pm
Frank Zappa on Crossfire

Zappa passed away on December 4th, 1993.

Zappa: The biggest threat to America today is not communism; it's moving America towards a fascist theocracy and everything that has happened during the Reagan administration. Is steering us right down that pipe

Zappa: When you have a government that prefers a certain moral code derived from a certain religion and that moral code turns into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view and if that code happens to be very, very right wing almost toward Attila the Hun.

Lofton: Well then you are an anarchist. Every form of civil government is based on some kind of morality, Frank.

Zappa: Morality in terms of behavior-not in terms of theology.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 11:14 pm
"My job is extrapolating everything to it's most extreme"
Frank Zappa
He did just that,everything to the extreme. Way over the top & he wasn't viewed as a nice man.
I didn't even know the idiot had died.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 07:03 am
Bump
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 08:30 am
Brown shoes don't make it
Brown Shoes don't make it
Quit school, why fake it
Brown shoes don't make it
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djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 09:11 am
"Drop out of school before your mind rots from exposure to our mediocre educational system. Forget about the Senior Prom and go to the library and educate yourself if you've got any guts. Some of you like Pep rallies and plastic robots who tell you what to read. Forget I mentioned it. This song has no message. Rise for the flag salute. "

Source: Zappa's liner notes for Freak Out
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 05:18 pm
YEah, but folks still insist that you can not legislate morality. Hmmm.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 05:51 pm
thanks, rox! God, that was painful to watch. And god do I miss that guy.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 06:30 pm
A personal note, my mom used to buy corned beef from his uncle who worked at the deli in the neighborhood in Baltimore where I grew up.

Zappa, Nancy Pelosi, John Waters, and "Roxxxanne" four Baltimoreans who made it big, well three anyway! Smile
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jespah
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 06:46 pm
What about Barry Levinson?
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 07:10 pm
jespah wrote:
What about Barry Levinson?


OK 4 out of 5 then. Then, of course, HL Mencken but I was referring to contemporaries.

Of course, there is Glenn "Divine" Milstead and my beloved dear departed friend Edith (the egg lady) Massey who I taught "how to sing" and with whom I had a club act in the 70s.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 01:07 pm
frank was an amazing person.

one of the first drummers i worked with, lester krinski, gave me a beat up copy of Absolutely Free and things opened right up. one of the most bizarre records i'd come across, even goofier than the Fugs. but intellectually hands above.

when i first moved to hollywood years later, it seemed like the place was populated by ex-mothers. art tripp lived in the apartment next door (he was studying to become a chiropracter ?!?!?). he introduced me to don preston and few others later, but i can't remember who.. well, it was the mid '70s, whaddaya expect ? : )

but it was when a friend loaned me a copy of his autobiography, "the real frank zappa book" that i really became a fan of frank, the guy. that was about 1992 or 93.

in fact, i became such a fan that the same friend gave me a big framed poster from the sheikh yerbouty tour (MUNCHEN !!!) for christmas. and it still hangs majestically in our hall way.

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/15/47/630a124128a0d6a849648010.L.jpg

if you haven't already, read this book. it is hysterical..
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jespah
 
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Reply Thu 7 Dec, 2006 05:35 am
Roxxxanne wrote:
jespah wrote:
What about Barry Levinson?


OK 4 out of 5 then. Then, of course, HL Mencken but I was referring to contemporaries.

Of course, there is Glenn "Divine" Milstead and my beloved dear departed friend Edith (the egg lady) Massey who I taught "how to sing" and with whom I had a club act in the 70s.


Well, perhaps it'll become 5 for 5 in time. Good luck to you. Smile

DTOM, great reminiscences of FZ.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 7 Dec, 2006 07:05 am
In the late sixties, a friend and I were travelling abroad and one afternoon in Soho we were in a poster shop and I picked up that classic poster of frank sitting on the toilet. A bit later, we popped into a porn theatre to see what the Brits were buying from the Swedish film industry. When we left, I somehow forgot to take the rolled-up poster of Frank. To this day, I imagine the threatre janitor, a fellow with surely one of the more uncomfortable jobs on the planet, unrolling the poster of Frank and wondering just what sort of pervert had been sitting in my seat.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 7 Dec, 2006 09:32 am
BTW I might mention that Frank died of prostate cancer. A cancer that can be treated relatively easily if discovered in time with a simple test.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 10:15 am
That was very difficult to watch... I'm half-way through and don't know if I want to continue, except Frank is magnificent at standing tall against those creeps.

Too bad he died so young. I loved my Hot Rats album....
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 11:07 am
Hi P....lovely to see you!
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Piffka
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 11:24 am
blatham wrote:
Hi P....lovely to see you!


Thank you and very nice to see you, too. You're looking spiff' as usual and sounding as astute as ever. Good!


-- the story re. the poster left behind... Is that really true?? Funny!
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 02:49 pm
It is true in all details.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 09:23 pm
Omigod, that is a great story and don't you think Frank would have enjoyed hearing it?

Today, you could just send a message to his MySpace page, if only he were still around. Dweezil is though and he might enjoy hearing it.



(Sorry about the URL. I've forgotten how to make a link.)

ZappaPlaysZappa is going to be in Seattle... in two weeks.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 11 Dec, 2006 09:27 am
I've finished watching that film clip and thought, if there is a just god, then those creeps should be as dead as Frank.

Oh, I knew that the integrity-challenged Novak was still around <spit> but boy, was I surprised and disappointed to find that all three of those creeps are still alive and still spewing forth their twisted views of how freedom should reign. No freakin' wonder we've reached the near-fascist state we're at.

I'm glad I never watched CrossFire back then, even as naive as I was about politics, I must have been able to smell the stench. I found a quote from Timothy Leary that helped me overcome my rage and regain my inner peace:

*"... watching Crossfire was like watching "the left wing" of the CIA debating the right wing of the CIA."


By the way, that YouTube site has the original version of Peaches en Regalia, for anyone who needs to hear it.




*from "I'm Not a Leftist, But I Play One on TV" By Jeff Cohen
t r u t h o u t | Perspective Friday 22 September 2006
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