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How do you ask a man to be the last to die for a bully’s ego

 
 
Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 05:33 am
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 05:37 am
Here's more on Jim Webb:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/120306F.shtml
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 05:57 am
It's the wimpiness of Bush foes as much as Bush himself feeding the war.
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squinney
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 06:04 am
Many of us here have known from the start that that Bush is an egomaniacal bully and that the war was not just unjustified, but wrong in so many ways. That's not a pat on my back or anyone elses posting here that recognized the fake cowboy for what he is. I'm bewildered by those that don't recognize it, yes. But, more so by those in DC that have their own power and for some reason don't use it. What makes them cower? He's just the president. Other presidents didn't scare our representatives. Why this one? What's he got?
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 06:52 am
That's easy, you have the officers on the ground do it. They are the people calling the shots. Or have congress do it. They are the ones that authorized the war. My job is to protect and defend the constitution. GWB
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candidone1
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 08:53 am
Sadly, in spite of all the failures and shortcomings of this war, the Bush cabal, from his handlers, to his base to his family members, will always look at this war as a success because Saddam was captured.

His capture symbolized the closure of a very important chapter in that family's political history.

Like true sociopaths, they will ignore and even adamantly deny any other relevent information about this conflict--you know, the really important information.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:12 am
candidone1 wrote:
Sadly, in spite of all the failures and shortcomings of this war, the Bush cabal, from his handlers, to his base to his family members, will always look at this war as a success because Saddam was captured.

His capture symbolized the closure of a very important chapter in that family's political history.

Like true sociopaths, they will ignore and even adamantly deny any other relevent information about this conflict--you know, the really important information.


I am on the edge of my seat... What is the the really important information.?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:16 am
The really important information is that Iraq has dissolved into civil war on sectarian lines between the Sunnis and the Shi'ites, and that nothing the Shrub and his Forty Thieves of Baghdad are doing or proposing is any earthly help for the resolution of the civil war which has begun.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:25 am
That's it? Civil war? That's the really important information?

How many sides on this civil war? It's hardly just Shia vs. Sunni continuing the internal conflict in Iraq right now.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:33 am
In fact, there are only two sides in this civil war. That other splinter groups take advantage of the situation to forward their own agendae does not alter that the basic divide which has lead to civil war is between Sunni and Shi'ite. The Kurds have a stable polity which has existed since before the invasion, it is unlikely that they will be drawn in on either side, and it is most likely that they will take advantage of the situation to attain a strong bargaining position with whatever government emerges from this chaos.

What is certain is that Hussein ceased to be the central figure or the central issue in this morass long before he was found hiding in his hole.
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username
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:33 am
True, McGentrix, it's not just Sunni and Shia continuing the conflict. It's also the United States.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:39 am
Why is so little mentioned about the enormous amount of money the US has invested in permanent bases in Iraq, including the embassy which is about the size of the friggin Vatican.

I would like to see a picture of that embassy.

Here's a story on some of the structures being built over there.

If anyone has a photo of the embassy, please pass it along.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:44 am
Some would say that the Carlyle Group profits are important enough to look into.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:44 am
For those who don't care to read the story, here is an excerpt, describing the Balad Air Base...

The base is sizeable enough to have its own "neighborhoods" including "KBR-land" (in honor of the Halliburton subsidiary that has done most of the base-construction work in Iraq); "CJSOTF" ("home to a special operations unit," the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force, surrounded by "especially high walls," and so secretive that even the base Army public affairs chief has never been inside); and a junkyard for bombed out Army Humvees. There is as well a Subway, a Pizza Hut, a Popeye's, "an ersatz Starbucks," a 24-hour Burger King, two post exchanges where TVs, iPods, and the like can be purchased, four mess halls, a hospital, a strictly enforced on-base speed limit of 10 MPH, a huge airstrip, 250 aircraft (helicopters and predator drones included), air-traffic pile-ups of a sort you would see over Chicago's O'Hare airport, and "a miniature golf course, which mimics a battlefield with its baby sandbags, little Jersey barriers, strands of concertina wire and, down at the end of the course, what appears to be a tiny detainee cage."
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:46 am
McGentrix
Will Bush chauvinist McGentrix volunteer to be the last soldier to die for a bully's ego?

BBB
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:49 am
McGentrix died a long time ago. At least his soul did.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:54 am
Perhaps you guys should review this?

http://www.able2know.com/disclaimer.php#3b5
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:58 am
I'm just messin with you, McGentrix.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 10:48 am
gustavratzenhofer wrote:
I'm just messin with you, McGentrix.


Maybe so, Gus, but but sometimes there's more truth in a jest than in a sober statement. Yours was a perfect example.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 04:51 am
There are about 140,000 U.S. troops in Iraq right now.

But, to add to Gus's point about just how large a presence we intend to have there in the future, (had?) the WP reveals in its business pages a new census shows there are approximately 100,000 government contractors working in Iraq, not counting subcontractors.
12/05/06

BTW: Your Commander-in-Chief finally met with an actual, meaning not-hand-picked-by-us, Iraqi, the leader of Iraq's largest Shiite Muslim party, Abdul Aziz al-Hakim.

Haven't seen any news about how that went.

Joe(So, are you with us or agin' us?)Nation
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