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US Presidential Candidates For 2008 - Who?

 
 
Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2006 05:56 pm
Who will be/could be/should be the Republican candidate?
Who will be/could be/should be the Democratic candidate?
Anybody else worth watching?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2006 05:59 pm
Good question.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2006 06:07 pm
I note that Repub Sen Bill Frist of Tenn withdrew today. I was surprised by that. I don't know that I would ever have voted for him, but he seemed to me to be a thoughtful, decent person. He left the Senate, presumably to run for the GOP nomination, but then he quit. Much like Mark Warner, the former Democratic Gov of my state of VA. He quit the quest abruptly.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2006 06:25 pm
I support Hillary which makes me unpopular with a lot of people even squinney but I don't care.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2006 07:03 pm
I started this based on the Frist news. I hope that Nimh The Creator Of Pretty Charts will either take this over or begin the Official thread.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2006 11:46 pm
realjohnboy wrote:
I note that Repub Sen Bill Frist of Tenn withdrew today. I was surprised by that. I don't know that I would ever have voted for him, but he seemed to me to be a thoughtful, decent person. He left the Senate, presumably to run for the GOP nomination, but then he quit. Much like Mark Warner, the former Democratic Gov of my state of VA. He quit the quest abruptly.

He didn't withdraw, he announced that he would not run.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Wed 29 Nov, 2006 11:53 pm
Republicans that will I believe will run.
Duncan Hunter has announced
Guilliani has a exploratory committee, he's running
Gingrich, he'll announce, but he's running
McCain has an exploratory committee, he's running
Huckabee, running
The only one I would consider voting for of that list is Hunter & I'd have to find out more about him.
Dems that's running
I believe most every Dem Senator + the gov of Iowa & maybe Sore Al Bordom. One thing about the dems running against each other, they're a good show, better than the old Saturday night wresting matches.
i won't vote for any of them.
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Thu 30 Nov, 2006 12:08 pm
My tentative favorite was Democrat Mark Warner of Virginia, but he officially dropped out before he officially entered the race.

Pundits say that Hillary will take the Dem. nomination and McCain will wipe the floor with her in the election. I liked McCain in the past but his loyalty to Bush is almost chauvinistic, at least concerning the war.

Hillary has positioned herself toward the middle, appearing as a moderate, which is probably politically healthy, but I'd like to know what she really feels about the important issues like energy independence.

I don't understand the fervor over Obama.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Thu 30 Nov, 2006 12:16 pm
coluber2001 wrote:
My tentative favorite was Democrat Mark Warner of Virginia, but he officially dropped out before he officially entered the race.

Pundits say that Hillary will take the Dem. nomination and McCain will wipe the floor with her in the election. I liked McCain in the past but his loyalty to Bush is almost chauvinistic, at least concerning the war.

Hillary has positioned herself toward the middle, appearing as a moderate, which is probably politically healthy, but I'd like to know what she really feels about the important issues like energy independence.

I don't understand the fervor over Obama.

Mark Warner could've been a very viable candidate, as could Evan Bayh, but the good ones don't want to be sullied by the dirt that is a presidential campaign, who can blame them.
McCain is loyal to McCain, period.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Thu 30 Nov, 2006 08:13 pm
First of all, hi to yall. I see names here I haven't run into before.
I am realjohnboy. I am probably one of the most liberal members of a liberal leaning A2K. And I am a political junkie.
There are certain threads on which I try, I try really hard to be reportorial rather than editorial. The House/Senate race thread that Nimh had, for example.
There are no strict rules, of course. And no enforcer. Please try to keep the spirit of this thread advancing in the way it was intended. Thank you.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 30 Nov, 2006 08:26 pm
Hey, rjb.

I had a thread on possible Republican contenders that went pretty strong for a while, up to 39 pages with decent discussion. But it seems to have died in the run-up to the Congressional elections: A first(?) thread on 2008: McCain,Giuliani & the Republicans

I dont think theres any parallel for the Democrats. Untill now, the Obama '08? thread has been kinda doubling as general-Democratic thread re the Presidentials, but at now <gasp> 202 pages, the main focus remained on Obama.

Not that I can see any other Democrats lining up that are both sympathetic and feasible winners, anyway..
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Thu 30 Nov, 2006 08:35 pm
I was surprised, Lonestarmadam, that Mark Warner of my state of VA bailed. He would have been, perhaps, a long shot with not a whole lot of name recognition. But he had collected a lot of political IOU's from Dems around the country because of his fund raising efforts. His deciding to pass on the idea of running because of "family concerns" may have been valid. Who in his/her right mind would want to endure that scrunity?

There remains a bit of a rumor that maybe, just maybe, Mark Warner has a skeleton in his closet.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Thu 30 Nov, 2006 11:17 pm
realjohnboy wrote:
I was surprised, Lonestarmadam, that Mark Warner of my state of VA bailed. He would have been, perhaps, a long shot with not a whole lot of name recognition. But he had collected a lot of political IOU's from Dems around the country because of his fund raising efforts. His deciding to pass on the idea of running because of "family concerns" may have been valid. Who in his/her right mind would want to endure that scrunity?

There remains a bit of a rumor that maybe, just maybe, Mark Warner has a skeleton in his closet.

The only reason I have any knowledge of him is because my sister lives in Va Beach & she really likes Warner & had hoped he would run. Now my sister is a Dem, not really liberal, but certainly more than I am, most anybody is more liberal than I am. Smile I was in Va Beach the week before & of the election & watched some fairly heavy hitting by Webb against Allen.
Most of these guys probably have skeletons in their closets, how bad can it be? I mean, after the scoundrels we have witnessed over time....
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Fri 1 Dec, 2006 04:52 pm
Somewhat off topic about presidential hopefuls. Mark Warner of VA is out. I had hoped (and so stated) that I wished he would run for the Senate seat held by the Repub, George Allen. Warner would have won easily, I think. But he didn't run. He still had his eye on the presidency at the time.
As it turned out, Allen ran an absolutely inept campaign, proving to be an idiot at best and a racist at worst (stop it realjohnboy, you are supposed to be reporting). Okay. Mr Allen ran an inept campaign and Mr Webb won by some 9,000 votes out of a couple of million.
Our senior senator, John Warner (no relation to Mark Warner) will be up for election again in 2008. For his 7th term, if he decides to run. He is a good guy and one of the few Repubs I and many other Dems vote for. But if he retires, Mark Warner would win the seat.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 06:53 pm
I just wanted to tell yall this evening that johnboy is not running for President. It seems as though everyone else is. Some have announced, some are thinking about announcing, some are, well, you know the ritual.
So who are the cast of charactersa so far.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 11 Dec, 2006 07:28 pm
realjohnboy wrote:
So who are the cast of charactersa so far.

Hey rjb,

This is from another thread: Another Dem "exploring"

LoneStarMadam wrote:
How many Dems now running or thinking about running or exploring?

xingu wrote:
And how many Republicans?

nimh wrote:
Good question actually. Made me look if one can find a list somewhere online. Just a list of what candidates have actually set up an exploratory committee, rather than one of candidates that are said, expected or rumoured to make a run. Havent found one yet.

nimh wrote:
So lets make a list.

Politicians who have filed their candidacy with FEC:

Republican

Hunter

Democrat

Vilsack

Politicians who have founded exploratory committees:

Republican

Brownback
McCain
Giuliani
Thompson

Democrat

Bayh

(Richardson apparently was reported to have announced his candidacy by Fox, but denied the report.)

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Any additions?

Walter Hinteler wrote:
The National Journal released a new Washington Insiders poll of 70 Congressional lawmakers and 150 political insiders on who they think are the likely Republican and Democratic nominee for the 2008 Presidential election.

Republicans
1. John McCain
2. Mitt Romney
3. Rudy Giuliani
4. Newt Gingrich
5. Mike Huckabee
6. George Pataki
7. Chuck Hagel
8. Condoleezza Rice
9. Sam Brownback
10. Bill Frist


Democrats
1. Hillary Clinton
2. Barack Obama
3. John Edwards
4. Al Gore
5. Evan Bayh
6. Tom Vilsack
7. Bill Richardson
8. Joseph Biden
9. Wesley Clark
10. Christopher Dodd

Source: http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2006/1208nj1.htm

nimh wrote:
Yeah, but thats just another list of speculation. Its easy to find a list with "potential" or "possible" or "likely" candidates - just open any of five dozen opinion polls, they're a dime a dozen.

Its surprisingly hard, on the other hand - or I was just failing - to find a simple list of politicians who have actually taken those concrete first steps - establishing an exploratory committee, filing their candidacy.

nimh wrote:
You heard it here first .. ;-)

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KUCINICH JUMPS IN:

In 2008 news, Dennis Kucinich has announced he will soon, well, announce:

    Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich, who unsuccessfully ran for president in 2004, said Monday he is planning to run again because his party isn't pushing hard enough to end the war in Iraq. In a statement, Kucinich said he plans to formally announce his candidacy for 2008 on Tuesday at City Hall, where he served as mayor of his hometown in the 1970s.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 11 Dec, 2006 08:03 pm
The National Journal article, which I printed out (6 pages) was quite useful. Add Kucinch to the Dem list.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 17 Dec, 2006 03:44 pm
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BYE BAYH:

Evan Bayh's taking a pass on '08. Here's a prescient paragraph from Michelle's profile of him:

    Yet, despite his myriad charms, Bayh's prospective candidacy has generated minimal buzz among the political class, beyond his perpetual mention as a natural for the number-two spot on the ticket. What Bayh's fans praise as his aura of calm, competence, and decency, critics deride as dishwater drabness. They say his manner is too soothing, his politics too cautious, and his persona too bland. ("I defy you to find one person or group he has ever offended," challenged one longtime Democratic Hill staffer.) Both inside the Beltway and out in the electoral holy lands of Iowa and New Hampshire, the consensus is that the senator must get better at showing that he has "fire in his belly."
Looks like Bayh decided he didn't have that fire after all.

--Jason Zengerle
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 17 Dec, 2006 03:46 pm
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NOTHING TO SEE HERE, PLEASE DISPERSE:

One thing about this new Iowa poll, reported in today's Des Moines Register (via PoliticalWire), that shows John Edwards at 36 percent and "far ahead of the rest of the pack of possible Democratic presidential candidates." The poll was conducted in October--i.e. before Tom Vilsack (who comes in fourth) officially announced he's running for president and before Obamamania (whose namesake comes in third) kicked into high gear. In other words, I don't think this poll tells us too much about the current state of the race, except maybe that Hillary--who comes in a distant second in the poll, trailing Edwards by 20 points--is still not that popular in Iowa.

--Jason Zengerle
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