Sen. Dodd Bill Restores Habeas Corpus

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Dodd Introduces Effective Terrorists Prosecution Act; Brings Terrorists to Justice, Honors America's Good Name

November 16, 2006

Washington- Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT), an outspoken opponent of the Military Commission Act of 2006, today introduced legislation which would amend existing law in order to have an effective process for bringing terrorists to justice. This is currently not the case under the Military Commission Act, which will be the subject of endless legal challenges. As important, the bill would also seek to ensure that U.S. servicemen and women are afforded the maximum protection of a strong international legal framework guaranteed by respect for such provisions as the Geneva Conventions and other international standards, and to restore America's moral authority as the leader in the world in advancing the rule of law.

"I take a backseat to no one when it comes to protecting this country from terrorists," Sen. Dodd said. "But there is a right way to do this and a wrong way to do this. It's clear the people who perpetrated these horrendous crimes against our country and our people have no moral compass and deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But in taking away their legal rights, the rights first codified in our country's Constitution, we're taking away our own moral compass, as well."

The Effective Terrorists Prosecution Act:

Restores Habeas Corpus protections to detainees

Narrows the definition of unlawful enemy combatant to individuals who directly participate in hostilities against the United States who are not lawful combatants

Bars information gained through coercion from being introduced as evidence in trials

Empowers military judges to exclude hearsay evidence they deem to be unreliable

Authorizes the US Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces to review decisions by the Military commissions

Limits the authority of the President to interpret the meaning and application of the Geneva Conventions and makes that authority subject to congressional and judicial oversight

Provides for expedited judicial review of the Military Commissions Act of 2006 to determine the constitutionally of its provisions

"We in Congress have our own obligation, to work in a bipartisan way to repair the damage that has been done, to protect our international reputation, to preserve our domestic traditions, and to provide a successful mechanism to improve and enhance the tools required by the global war on terror," Dodd said.

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Can't wait to hear about how you hate America....

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I'd like to hear what the rightwingnuts have against Habeas Corpus.

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"Protect our imternational reputation"????? Shocked

What happened to protecting Americans???????
How about the international community worrying about their own reputation, they haven't been what one could call stellar!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes

Wait till their next crisis, who do you think they'll call on?

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Habeas corpus PROTECTS US citizens, whether you realize it or not...

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blacksmithn wrote:

Habeas corpus PROTECTS US citizens, whether you realize it or not...

How, by protecting our international reputation? Rolling Eyes

This is nothing more than a political ploy on Dodds part, he could give two hoots about "protecting Americans", liberals want to "protect" socialism, not "Americanism"

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Madam, I doubt you'd know a true American virtue if it bit you in the ass.

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Marion, I doubt..

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LoneStarMadam wrote:

blacksmithn wrote:
Habeas corpus PROTECTS US citizens, whether you realize it or not...

How, by protecting our international reputation?
This is nothing more than a political ploy on Dodds part, he could give two hoots about "protecting Americans", liberals want to "protect" socialism, not "Americanism"

I really hope your posts here won't continue in this vein. "Liberals want to protect socialism not americanism" is another cliche that you use to escape any notion you ought to be actually thinking.

To the degree that US policy and actions are in disfavor, particularly with allies, to that degree the US will be impeded in carrying forward its desired foreign policies effectively. Britain is a clear case in point.

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LoneStarMadam, it gets worse.
Bush's domestic spying program appears doomed
By LAURIE KELLMAN
Nov 11, 2006 - 2:01:20 AM

Legislation aimed at President Bush's once-secret program for wiretapping U.S.-foreign phone calls and computer traffic of suspected terrorists without warrants shows all the signs of not moving ahead, notwithstanding President Bush's request this week that a lame-duck Congress give it to him.

Senate Democrats, emboldened by Election Day wins that put them in control of Congress as of January, say they would rather wait until next year to look at the issue. "I can't say that we won't do it, but there's no guarantee that we're going spend a lot of time on controversial measures," Democratic Whip Richard Durbin of Illinois said Thursday.

In Senate parlance, that means no.
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blacksmithn wrote:

Madam, I doubt you'd know a true American virtue if it bit you in the ass.

& you would be wrong.

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blatham wrote:

LoneStarMadam wrote:
blacksmithn wrote:
Habeas corpus PROTECTS US citizens, whether you realize it or not...

How, by protecting our international reputation?
This is nothing more than a political ploy on Dodds part, he could give two hoots about "protecting Americans", liberals want to "protect" socialism, not "Americanism"

I really hope your posts here won't continue in this vein. "Liberals want to protect socialism not americanism" is another cliche that you use to escape any notion you ought to be actually thinking.

To the degree that US policy and actions are in disfavor, particularly with allies, to that degree the US will be impeded in carrying forward its desired foreign policies effectively. Britain is a clear case in point.

Our strongest alli, GB, is in line with our stance on this war on terrorism.
I'm sure you know what socialism is, I'm just as sure that you know that liberals want it protected, they do not like individualism, they like & want "gov't care from the cradle to the grave", that is not what America was or is about.

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blueflame1 wrote:

LoneStarMadam, it gets worse.
Bush's domestic spying program appears doomed
By LAURIE KELLMAN
Nov 11, 2006 - 2:01:20 AM

Legislation aimed at President Bush's once-secret program for wiretapping U.S.-foreign phone calls and computer traffic of suspected terrorists without warrants shows all the signs of not moving ahead, notwithstanding President Bush's request this week that a lame-duck Congress give it to him.

Senate Democrats, emboldened by Election Day wins that put them in control of Congress as of January, say they would rather wait until next year to look at the issue. "I can't say that we won't do it, but there's no guarantee that we're going spend a lot of time on controversial measures," Democratic Whip Richard Durbin of Illinois said Thursday.

In Senate parlance, that means no.
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The intercepted phone calls have saved terrorist acts from being realized. If the dems want to stop that, then I hope they'll be stand up & admit to failing when we're hit again.

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why so pessimistic? With the incredible job gwb has done on the war on terra, homeland security and restoring dignity and moral fibre to the country and to Washington, I feel confident we will never be attacked again. In fact, I look for the cancer rate to go down, birth defects to disapear and probably I'll never even get another hangnail.

Cheer up girl.

BTW, I once spent some time with a Lone Star Madam during a swing through Texas. Left me with an awful rash, but I'm sure that wasn't you.

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Our strongest alli, GB, is in line with our stance on this war on terrorism.
I'm sure you know what socialism is, I'm just as sure that you know that liberals want it protected, they do not like individualism, they like & want "gov't care from the cradle to the grave", that is not what America was or is about.

GB has been, and remains, unaligned with key elements of Bush adminiistration strategy, most pertinently as regards the necessity to move to resolution or progress in the Palestine/Israel conflict and treatment/incarceration of prisoners.

Further, GB is moving further away from support of such policies because Labor's electoral picture is much like what has just happened in the US. There also, the large majority of the population no longer supports the Blair/Bush decision to set to war with Iraq. You can read the Guardian or Independent (or any other Brit paper) online for free.

Further, many conservatives and Republicans are now no longer aligned with Bush policies on Iraq and on terrorism. The Baker group being the most obvious contemporary manifestation.

Your use of the term "liberal" above (and "socialist") are not well informed. To suggest or think that all liberals or socialists want one thing, or all see the world in one way, are as inaccurate as the suggestion or idea that all conservatives want one thing or see the world in one way.

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

why so pessimistic? With the incredible job gwb has done on the war on terra, homeland security and restoring dignity and moral fibre to the country and to Washington, I feel confident we will never be attacked again. In fact, I look for the cancer rate to go down, birth defects to disapear and probably I'll never even get another hangnail.

Cheer up girl.

BTW, I once spent some time with a Lone Star Madam during a swing through Texas. Left me with an awful rash, but I'm sure that wasn't you.

I can assure you that it was not this LSM that YOU spent time with, I am very discerning & particular of who I allow in my breathing space.
BTW-Pennicillan might help you with that rash.

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LoneStarMadam wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
why so pessimistic? With the incredible job gwb has done on the war on terra, homeland security and restoring dignity and moral fibre to the country and to Washington, I feel confident we will never be attacked again. In fact, I look for the cancer rate to go down, birth defects to disapear and probably I'll never even get another hangnail.

Cheer up girl.

BTW, I once spent some time with a Lone Star Madam during a swing through Texas. Left me with an awful rash, but I'm sure that wasn't you.

I can assure you that it was not this LSM that YOU spent time with, I am very discerning & particular of who I allow in my breathing space.
BTW-Pennicillan might help you with that rash.[/quotI

I believe that's penicillin dear, even for a Texan that was a slaughter of the language.

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The intercepted phone calls have saved terrorist acts from being realized.

That is a claim that has been advanced. What leads you to the conclusion that the claim is factual?

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If the dems want to stop that,

I've seen no statement from any dem which suggests surveillance ought to be stopped. The protests, where they occur, have to do with matters of judicial oversight.

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11/12/2006
Military Commissions Act backfires on accused US officials http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1518

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It's my belief that LSM has the same brain disorder as GWBush.

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