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A Liberal's Pledge to Disheartened Conservatives

 
 
Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 08:42 am
A Liberal's Pledge to Disheartened Conservatives
November 14th, 2006

To My Conservative Brothers and Sisters,

I know you are dismayed and disheartened at the results of last week's election. You're worried that the country is heading toward a very bad place you don't want it to go. Your 12-year Republican Revolution has ended with so much yet to do, so many promises left unfulfilled. You are in a funk, and I understand.

Well, cheer up, my friends! Do not despair. I have good news for you. I, and the millions of others who are now in charge with our Democratic Congress, have a pledge we would like to make to you, a list of promises that we offer you because we value you as our fellow Americans. You deserve to know what we plan to do with our newfound power -- and, to be specific, what we will do to you and for you.

Thus, here is our Liberal's Pledge to Disheartened Conservatives:

Dear Conservatives and Republicans,

I, and my fellow signatories, hereby make these promises to you:

1. We will always respect you for your conservative beliefs. We will never, ever, call you "unpatriotic" simply because you disagree with us. In fact, we encourage you to dissent and disagree with us.

2. We will let you marry whomever you want, even when some of us consider your behavior to be "different" or "immoral." Who you marry is none of our business. Love and be in love -- it's a wonderful gift.

3. We will not spend your grandchildren's money on our personal whims or to enrich our friends. It's your checkbook, too, and we will balance it for you.

4. When we soon bring our sons and daughters home from Iraq, we will bring your sons and daughters home, too. They deserve to live. We promise never to send your kids off to war based on either a mistake or a lie.

5. When we make America the last Western democracy to have universal health coverage, and all Americans are able to get help when they fall ill, we promise that you, too, will be able to see a doctor, regardless of your ability to pay. And when stem cell research delivers treatments and cures for diseases that affect you and your loved ones, we'll make sure those advances are available to you and your family, too.

6. Even though you have opposed environmental regulation, when we clean up our air and water, we, the Democratic majority, will let you, too, breathe the cleaner air and drink the purer water.

7. Should a mass murderer ever kill 3,000 people on our soil, we will devote every single resource to tracking him down and bringing him to justice. Immediately. We will protect you.

8. We will never stick our nose in your bedroom or your womb. What you do there as consenting adults is your business. We will continue to count your age from the moment you were born, not the moment you were conceived.

9. We will not take away your hunting guns. If you need an automatic weapon or a handgun to kill a bird or a deer, then you really aren't much of a hunter and you should, perhaps, pick up another sport. We will make our streets and schools as free as we can from these weapons and we will protect your children just as we would protect ours.

10. When we raise the minimum wage, we will pay you -- and your employees -- that new wage, too. When women are finally paid what men make, we will pay conservative women that wage, too.

11. We will respect your religious beliefs, even when you don't put those beliefs into practice. In fact, we will actively seek to promote your most radical religious beliefs ("Blessed are the poor," "Blessed are the peacemakers," "Love your enemies," "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God," and "Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me."). We will let people in other countries know that God doesn't just bless America, he blesses everyone. We will discourage religious intolerance and fanaticism -- starting with the fanaticism here at home, thus setting a good example for the rest of the world.

12. We will not tolerate politicians who are corrupt and who are bought and paid for by the rich. We will go after any elected leader who puts him or herself ahead of the people. And we promise you we will go after the corrupt politicians on our side FIRST. If we fail to do this, we need you to call us on it. Simply because we are in power does not give us the right to turn our heads the other way when our party goes astray. Please perform this important duty as the loyal opposition.

I promise all of the above to you because this is your country, too. You are every bit as American as we are. We are all in this together. We sink or swim as one. Thank you for your years of service to this country and for giving us the opportunity to see if we can make things a bit better for our 300 million fellow Americans -- and for the rest of the world.

Signed,

Michael Moore
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 08:46 am
Every once in a while, that leftwingnut comes up with some good stuff.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 08:49 am
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10. When we raise the minimum wage, we will pay you -- and your employees -- that new wage, too. When women are finally paid what men make, we will pay conservative women that wage, too.


Who is "we"? Does that mean Moore, or the democratic party will be sudsidizing any pay increases to businesses that incur additional expenses based on raising minimum wage? Whose pocket do they really believe those wages come from.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 08:54 am
As always, it gets passed on to the consumer. Who now has more spending power, so money circulates through the economy more quickly, and effectively increases the amount of money in circulation.

Didn't you take economics?
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 09:13 am
minimum wage
There are so many myths spread by those opposed to raising the minimum wage. Stastics have proved them wrong for decades, but the mantra continues.

Causes unemployment - false. The biggest lie of all. Shame shame for falsely threatening to fire people. When other costs go up, they don't threaten layoffs. They passs the additional costs along to consumers. When the working poor can't afford medical care, the rest of us end up paying for them.

Raises prices to consumers, increases inflation - partly true, but is offset by additional income benefit to the economy. The ability of low income people to increase their purchases stimulates the economy.

Small business will have to close - false, increased costs are passed along to consumers. They will close only if they are badly managed or beaten by competition, not due to increasing the minimum wage.

Business owners can't afford to pay higher wages - Funny how it doesn't stop them from increasing their own wages and/or profits.

BBB
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 09:31 am
The Case Against a Higher Minimum Wage

The voices clamoring for a minimum wage hike are getting ever louder. Proponents argue that the current wage level does not provide an adequate incentive for work. Also, they argue that an increase in the minimum wage will have only a very minor impact on jobs. These arguments are not grounded in fact. The impact of raising the minimum wage has been studied since its inception. All credible research has come to the same conclusion: raising the minimum wage hurts the poor. It takes away jobs, keeps people on welfare, and encourages high-school students to drop out. Policy makers should be clear on the consequence of higher minimum wages.

Jobs and the Minimum Wage

Economists have studied the job-destroying features of a higher minimum wage. Estimates of the job losses of raising the minimum wage from $4.25 to $5.15 have ranged from 625,000 to 100,000 lost jobs. It is important to recognize that the jobs lost are mainly entry-level jobs. By destroying entry-level jobs, a higher minimum wage harms the lifetime earnings prospects of low-skilled workers.

Click here to see Figure 1.

Proponents have been able to muddle the debate by pointing to a study done by two Princeton economists, David Card and Alan Krueger. These economists claimed to find that raising the minimum wage does not lower employment. [1] In one paper, they succeeded in casting doubt on 200 years of economic research and theory. Economists took their challenge seriously and attempted to recreate their results. It could not be done. Economists who attempted to replicate their work demonstrated conclusively that raising the minimum wage destroys jobs. [2]

Even after the Card and Krueger study was fully discredited by economic science, it is still being used by proponents of higher minimum wages to support an increase. Why must they rely on discredited research to support their call for raising the minimum wage? Because they recognize that Americans do not support proposals that destroy jobs. Proponents often like to show survey results that say more than eighty percent of Americans support a higher minimum wage. Yet, the same survey shows less than half surveyed, 46 percent, support raising the minimum wage if it "might reduce the number of jobs available for workers with limited skills."[3] Clearly, if Americans were informed of the true effects of raising the minimum wage, support would rapidly erode.

Minimum Wage Workers

Supporters claim that raising the minimum wage is important for working families. Secretary of Labor Robert Reich often repeats the fact that forty percent of minimum wage workers are the sole source of income for their families. This is misleading because it relies on lumping single, non-family individuals with families. Only 2.8 percent of workers earning less than $5.15 are single parents. [4] Only 1.2 percent of all minimum wage workers were adult heads of households with incomes less than $10,000. [5] Fifty-seven percent of minimum wage workers are single individuals, many of them living with their parents.

Click here to see Figure 2.

Minimum wage workers are not parents struggling to feed their children. Rather, they are high school or college students living at home. The level of the minimum wage is irrelevant for most people in poverty. Only 9.2 percent of poor people of working age have full-time jobs. [6]


Click here to see Figure 3.

Side Effects of Raising the Minimum Wage

It has been well documented that the minimum wage destroys jobs, particularly the jobs of low-skilled, young workers. However, there are other equally pernicious side effects of higher minimum wages. Higher minimum wages make it more difficult for people to leave welfare and induce high-school students to drop out.

Dr. Peter Brandon of the Institute for Research on Poverty studied how raising the minimum wage affect the transition from welfare to work. [7] He found that raising it keeps welfare mothers on welfare longer. Mothers on welfare in states that raised their minimum wage remained on welfare 44 percent longer than mothers on welfare in states where it was not raised.[8]

The reason for this result is that raising the minimum wage induces some people to enter the labor market who would not apply if not for the higher level. With a larger labor market, employers choose higher-skilled applicants. Thus, raising the minimum wage hurts low-skilled workers in two ways. First, there are fewer jobs available. Second, with a larger pool of applicants, competition is stiffer. Low-skilled workers have a more difficult time getting those job skills that are crucial to economic well-being.

Another side effect of raising the minimum wage is that it increases the number of high-school students who drop out. [9] Some of these students do not find employment. Another group of students are part of those applicants that compete jobs away from welfare recipients. Dropping out of school is very destructive. High school drop-outs have a very difficult time improving their well-being.

The Elusive Benefits of a Higher Minimum Wage

The proponents of a higher minimum wage argue that it is vitally important to raise it in order to improve the lives of poor workers. However, the raise will have only a limited impact on poor working families. [10] A single parent with two children living in California would gain only 26 cents from a 90 cent increase in the minimum wage.

To put this gain in perspective, each minimum wage worker who earns $4.25 an hour brings home $3.92 for each hour worked once payroll taxes are deducted. The employer costs of a minimum wage worker is $4.58 an hour when the employers share of the payroll tax is included. [11] If workers could take home the amount of money it costs the employer to hire workers, they could have 62 cents more per hour. Clearly, the California parent would be better off if the tax wedge were reduced, rather than increasing the minimum wage.

Conclusion

The campaign to raise the minimum wage will have little positive impact on the lives of poor people. Rather, it is a political measure that plays to a misunderstanding of the impact of higher minimum wages. The future of the American economy depends on a correct understanding of the causes of prosperity. For too long, attempts to relieve poverty have been misguided. To lift people out of poverty, we need a system that maximizes opportunities for economic well-being of low-skilled workers. Raising the minimum wage is a wrong-headed solution that will deprive young, poor Americans of an opportunity to improve their economic situation.

Reed Garfield
Senior Economist
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 09:45 am
Re: A Liberal's Pledge to Disheartened Conservatives
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
A Liberal's Pledge to Disheartened Conservatives
November 14th, 2006

To My Conservative Brothers and Sisters,

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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 09:47 am
9. We will not take away your hunting guns. If you need an automatic weapon or a handgun to kill a bird or a deer, then you really aren't much of a hunter and you should, perhaps, pick up another sport. We will make our streets and schools as free as we can from these weapons and we will protect your children just as we would protect ours.


Michael Moore obviously wouldn't know an "automatic" weapon if he ate one.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 10:35 am
cjhsa
cjhsa, very clever of you to post your wide blahs blahs, which widened the screen and made the entire thread difficult to read. A really scum-bag tactic. If I find you doing this again, I will report you to the moderators---so knock it off!

BBB
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 10:56 am
Well, it wasn't intentional, but you'd never believe me, and now I can't fix it. I am sorry for the unintended effect.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 12:55 pm
.... a pathetic existence it must be to be concerned only with the fear of losing ones' guns.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 12:57 pm
Why don't you just shut the heck up and pretend like there's no 2nd amendment to protect your first? Laughing
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 01:00 pm
Yes, excersize your first amendment rights by shutting up, do.

Can you remember the last time the second amendment actually protected the first amendment, Cj? I doubt it.

Cycloptichorn
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Wed 15 Nov, 2006 12:30 am
#10 When women make whay men make....
Got any stats to back that claim up?
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 15 Nov, 2006 01:20 am
Gender Wage Gap Widening, Census Data Shows
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 15 Nov, 2006 07:08 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Can you remember the last time the second amendment actually protected the first amendment, Cj? I doubt it.

Cycloptichorn


Yeah, I was out turkey hunting and was calling in a big tom, when this squirrel busted my ass and wouldn't stop chattering, so I shot him.
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