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Neocons: We shouldn't have invaded Iraq

 
 
Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 07:20 pm
Neo Culpa
As Iraq slips further into chaos, the war's neoconservative boosters have turned sharply on the Bush administration, charging that their grand designs have been undermined by White House incompetence. In a series of exclusive interviews, Richard Perle, Kenneth Adelman, David Frum, and others play the blame game with shocking frankness. Target No. 1: the president himself.
by David Rose VF.COM November 3, 2006 http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2006/12/neocons200612
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 07:43 pm
Hmpph. Arrogant a-holes. 3000 American lives and untold numbers of Iraqi casualties too late for this epiphany. I hope they burn in hell.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 07:44 pm
yup.
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littlek
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 07:49 pm
A little video to go with Sabbath's War Pigs......

**warning: it's a little gruesome**

War Pigs
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 08:09 pm
"If Clinton hadn't has oral sex we would never have invaded Iraq."























































Well, sooner or later one of them'll say it!
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djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 08:27 pm
hind sight is 20/20



especially when one has their head up their a**
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 08:34 pm
Hmmm...seems they don't think they ought not to have invaded, rather they ought not to have got Bush elected.



"The levels of brutality that we've seen are truly horrifying, and I have to say, I underestimated the depravity," Perle says now, adding that total defeat—an American withdrawal that leaves Iraq as an anarchic "failed state"—is not yet inevitable but is becoming more likely. "And then," says Perle, "you'll get all the mayhem that the world is capable of creating."

According to Perle, who left the Defense Policy Board in 2004, this unfolding catastrophe has a central cause: devastating dysfunction within the administration of President George W. Bush. Perle says, "The decisions did not get made that should have been. They didn't get made in a timely fashion, and the differences were argued out endlessly.… At the end of the day, you have to hold the president responsible.… I don't think he realized the extent of the opposition within his own administration, and the disloyalty."



Note the set up for the old "stab in the back" explanation.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 09:04 pm
Rats abandoning a sinking ship.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 09:33 pm
Some interesting tactics in the blame game:


Michael Ledeen, American Enterprise Institute freedom scholar: "Ask yourself who the most powerful people in the White House are. They are women who are in love with the president: Laura [Bush], Condi, Harriet Miers, and Karen Hughes."

Frank Gaffney, an assistant secretary of defense under Ronald Reagan and founder of the Center for Security Policy: "[Bush] doesn't in fact seem to be a man of principle who's steadfastly pursuing what he thinks is the right course. He talks about it, but the policy doesn't track with the rhetoric, and that's what creates the incoherence that causes us problems around the world and at home. It also creates the sense that you can take him on with impunity."

Kenneth Adelman: "The most dispiriting and awful moment of the whole administration was the day that Bush gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to [former C.I.A. director] George Tenet, General Tommy Franks, and [Coalition Provisional Authority chief] Jerry [Paul] Bremer—three of the most incompetent people who've ever served in such key spots. And they get the highest civilian honor a president can bestow on anyone! That was the day I checked out of this administration. It was then I thought, There's no seriousness here, these are not serious people. If he had been serious, the president would have realized that those three are each directly responsible for the disaster of Iraq."




Looks like Eve's gonna get the blame again?


Shocked
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 09:42 pm
http://www.vanityfair.com/images/politics/2006/12/poar11_neocons0612.jpg

I can't tell if that face projects pure evil or unlimited stupidity.
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 4 Nov, 2006 12:49 am
I know. It is hard to say....
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