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Shocker: NY Times Confirms Iraqi Nuclear Weapons Program

 
 
Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 09:12 am
Shocker: New York Times Confirms Iraqi Nuclear Weapons Program

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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 09:21 am
I understood that we also found plans for a very large trebouchet to deliver the bomb.

You realize of course that the plans for building a nuke are the easiest thing to acquire.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 09:41 am
The article itself says the documents were from before the Persian Gulf War of 1991.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 09:42 am
Nuclear weapons program?

This could mean pretty much anything... and is old news to boot.

I think the missing WMD's debacle is something the conservatives should let go of.
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snood
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 09:58 am
Yeah, real shocker that someone would try to use this as some kind of vindication, Sierra.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 10:20 am
Actually, Go for it Sierra.

The more times the words "Iraqi WMDs" are yelled in a public forum before Tuesday, the better.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 10:31 am
ebrown_p wrote:
Actually, Go for it Sierra.

The more times the words "Iraqi WMDs" are yelled in a public forum before Tuesday, the better.

Only to the simple minded. If you toss a coin and it comes up heads, that doesn't mean that there wasn't a 50% chance that it would have come up tails.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 10:33 am
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Only to the simple minded.


Um, where do you think this election is taking place?

The 'simple-minded' vote is huge.

Cycloptichorn
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 10:34 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
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Only to the simple minded.


Um, where do you think this election is taking place?

The 'simple-minded' vote is huge.

Cycloptichorn

I am forced to agree with you.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 10:37 am
Actually, the real shocker is that the U.S. had to close their own website with "cookbook" for WMD's.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 10:39 am
That's shocking?

I mean, you guys, this is America we're talking about here. What was Rummy's quote? Oh yeah.

We're more of an 'idea' nation, less of a 'details' nation. You understand.

Cycloptichorn
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 11:39 am
brandon
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Only to the simple minded. If you toss a coin and it comes up heads, that doesn't mean that there wasn't a 50% chance that it would have come up tails.
Bad choice Brandon. Did you mean its ok to start a trillion dollar war that costs almost 2500 of our lives on a coin toss?
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candidone1
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 11:58 am
What irks me the most farmerman is that these are the same group who defend the trillion dollar war based on a "what if", but find every excuse possible to get out of talking about global warming because it'll be too expensive and it's a premise built on junk science.

They are a confused bunch.
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revel
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 01:18 pm
I tell ya, the smell of desperation on these jokers is starting to really rank. The worse part about is not too many of the "simple minded" will get past the misleading slogan pasted across the heading of "had the capability and he had the know-how to" develop nuclear weapons." to realize that it is dealing with prior to 1991 and before sanctions. And that his statements regarding the Duelfer Report goes directly contrary to what the Duelfer Report actually said regarding Saddam's nuclear weapons.

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The Times report documents Iraq's efforts to conduct nuclear research before the 1991 Persian Gulf war and prior to sanctions. Contrary to Bartlett's claim, Iraq had no nuclear capability at the time of the U.S. invasion in March 2003. Here are the facts, as reported in the Key Findings of the Duelfer Report:

- "Saddam Husayn ended the nuclear program in 1991 following the Gulf war. ISG found no evidence to suggest concerted efforts to restart the program."

- "Although Saddam clearly assigned a high value to the nuclear progress and talent that had been developed up to the 1991 war, the program ended and the intellectual capital decayed in the succeeding years."

- "The former Regime had no formal written strategy or plan for the revival of WMD after sanctions."

Transcript:

BARTLETT: Obviously, in this case, Andrea, there has been a problem because these documents went on, and they reveal what many people knew, was that Saddam Hussein had the capability and was working toward a nuclear weapon program. They had the scientists and the documents.

MITCHELL: Before the first gulf war. These are dated documents, so they go back to what was discovered before the first gulf war.

BARTLETT: True, Andrea, but they didn't lose that knowledge. They didn't take down the scientific apparatus or the capabilities to develop that. And Charlie Duelfer and other weapons experts all said what Saddam Hussein was doing was waiting the international community out, to make sure they got the inspectors out, so that they can then restart their program. He had the capability and he had the know-how to do it. And I think that's a stark reminder for people.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/03/bartlett-iraq-nuclear/

Regarding the Petagon having take down the their site because it spills the secrets of our nuclear weapons, well, that is the NYT fault, don't you know?

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kuvasz
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 11:45 pm
Well, golly I guess now we had better start building that Star Wars missile defenses.

Had George Bush been a paid agent of an enemy of America he could not have hurt us worse. If a sentry can be shot for falling asleep while on duty in wartime what do we do to the guy who did this during our perpetual War on Terror?
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