Any serious Christians left?

Intrepid wrote:

75% of the American population is white and only 12% is black. However, black people account for 44% of those in prison.

Are the black people committing the majority of the crime, or is the white majority seeing to it that the black people are charged and convicted unfairly?

Start a new thread. This has nothing to do with this topic.

Do you know what else causes an increase in crime?

Athletic shoes. Many teenages were killed in thefts where their Air Jordans were stolen, sometimes their shoes were they only things stolen. We should ban the manufacturing of high priced basketball shoes.

Also, the nicer a car you drive the higher likelihood that someone will steal it or break into it. This is not the theifs fault, it is the car manufacturer for making a car that is so tempting to steal.

Gambling is like this too. The addiction to gamble is the cause of people pickpocketing, stealing, etc. These people are not to blame, you have to blame the casinos, and outlaw gambling for everyone.


This is fun, what else causes an increase in crime that we should all vote for banning? That is if we all were willing to use the same logic that Arella Mae admits to using.










OR you could just STFU and stop voting to remove individual freedoms and rights because of your superior level of thinking.

Show me where I told you that you don't have the right to exercise your rights.

No. You have not stated your reasoning. You have stated that you know how to vote. . . Vote for something you want. Vote against something you don't want. I get that. I have voted before.
But, your "reasoning" has to do with how you decide which way to vote. Please tell me you understand.

Guess I was mistaken.

TV and that damn rock music.

Hot pants.

Beer!

Long haired hippies!

Tie Dye!

Raisinettes!

maporsche wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

75% of the American population is white and only 12% is black. However, black people account for 44% of those in prison.

Are the black people committing the majority of the crime, or is the white majority seeing to it that the black people are charged and convicted unfairly?

Start a new thread. This has nothing to do with this topic.

Exactly. Just as a lot of what has been posted has nothing to do with the topic.

Such as your post on athletic shoes. Seems it is ok for you to go off topic, but don't let anyone else...especially a Christian do the same.

Arella Mae wrote:

There are plenty of other statistics Echi. Would you like me to get you some more or would you like to research it for yourself?

I assumed that since you had formed this opinion, you likely had some good statistics all ready to go. (I guess not.)

Anyway, nevermind. Unless, of course, you can dig up something better than this:

timberlandko wrote:

United States General Accounting Office: Impact of Gambling - Economic Effects More Measurable Than Social Effects (Note: 72 page .pdf download)

Multi-year study with data drawn from FBI national crime statistics, various official state and local crime statistics, the Internal Revenue Service, the Small Business Administration, the National Institute of Health, the Department of the Census, the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Education, and an assortment of peer-reviewed, published academic studies and articles, among other sources. The upshot of the report is that while nationwide there was no discernable statiscally significant correlation between crime rate and the presence of casinos in communities, communities with casinos to a statistically significant extent had lower unemployment, higher average earnings and standard of living (including healthcare), lower suicide and bankruptcy rates, and overal more robust economic, infrastructure (including both public education and public safety assetts and personnel), and population growth than had otherwise essentially similar communities distant from and/or without casinos.

Otherwise, the only reasonable conclusion is that you feel justified in restricting other people's rights, ummmmm. . . . . just because that's how you feel! Okay. THAT IS YOUR RIGHT. Good luck convincing anybody else!

No, I'm pretty sure that one fit.

I was showing the flaw in AM's thought process. She thinks that gambling caused people to steal, rape, murder, etc. I was showing her how silly that logic sounds when applied to other crimes.

Please explain how 12% of Black people making up 44% of the prison population fits in with this conversation?

If you can show me how it applies, I will apologize and we can move on.

Intrepid wrote:

maporsche wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

75% of the American population is white and only 12% is black. However, black people account for 44% of those in prison.

Are the black people committing the majority of the crime, or is the white majority seeing to it that the black people are charged and convicted unfairly?

Start a new thread. This has nothing to do with this topic.

Exactly. Just as a lot of what has been posted has nothing to do with the topic.

Such as your post on athletic shoes. Seems it is ok for you to go off topic, but don't let anyone else...especially a Christian do the same.

No, I'm pretty sure that one fit.

I was showing the flaw in AM's thought process. She thinks that gambling caused people to steal, rape, murder, etc. I was showing her how silly that logic sounds when applied to other crimes.

Please explain how 12% of Black people making up 44% of the prison population fits in with this conversation?

If you can show me how it applies, I will apologize and we can move on.

maporsche wrote:

No, I'm pretty sure that one fit.

I was showing the flaw in AM's thought process. She thinks that gambling caused people to steal, rape, murder, etc. I was showing her how silly that logic sounds when applied to other crimes.

Please explain how 12% of Black people making up 44% of the prison population fits in with this conversation?

If you can show me how it applies, I will apologize and we can move on.

And just where did I say a thing about murder or rape? I didn't. I mentioned theft and muggings, etc. (unless, of course, you took etc. to be murder and rape )

The number of purse snatchings, assaults, rapes, robberies and murders skyrocketed after the casinos opened. FBI statistics show the crime rate per 1,000 residents went from 134.3 in 1978 to a peak of 450.3 in 1988.5

Look the fact is, some believe that gambling has been a factor in the increase of some crimes and some don't. There are statistics to back up both assertions.

And there's no reason to start using God's name in vain and I find it highly offensive.[/color]

I took the murder/rape from the link you provided from Focus on the Family to support your opinions. Or was this a section from your statistical proof that you disagree with. Here it is so you can read it.

The number of purse snatchings, assaults, rapes, robberies and murders skyrocketed after the casinos opened. FBI statistics show the crime rate per 1,000 residents went from 134.3 in 1978 to a peak of 450.3 in 1988.5

And don't roll your eyes at me just because you didn't bother oto read your entire link.

And I choose to use God's name in any way I see fit. That is between me and god, not you.

maporsche wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

maporsche wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

75% of the American population is white and only 12% is black. However, black people account for 44% of those in prison.

Are the black people committing the majority of the crime, or is the white majority seeing to it that the black people are charged and convicted unfairly?

Start a new thread. This has nothing to do with this topic.

Exactly. Just as a lot of what has been posted has nothing to do with the topic.

Such as your post on athletic shoes. Seems it is ok for you to go off topic, but don't let anyone else...especially a Christian do the same.

No, I'm pretty sure that one fit.

I was showing the flaw in AM's thought process. She thinks that gambling caused people to steal, rape, murder, etc. I was showing her how silly that logic sounds when applied to other crimes.

Please explain how 12% of Black people making up 44% of the prison population fits in with this conversation?

If you can show me how it applies, I will apologize and we can move on.

Jeremiah started this thread with:
"Anyone want to talk the christian bible? For ..against..whatever? Is this against the law yet? "

How does the last several pages of items that seem to belong to politics rather than religion fit into this initial question?

I agree that gambling, like many other things causes increase in crime. People have to feed their habit. The same as areas of drug activity also increase crime. Many things that people accept or fight for increase crime. Wearing expensive jewellery invites crime. Just about anything that is indulged invites crime.

I am asking whether being a black man creates more crime since 12% of the population has 44% of prison inmates. Or, is it because they are supressed by the rich? I was in a huge casino in Detroit one time where the only black people I saw were working there or serving the high rollers.

And if it offends me, then it does concern me and since you are the one that caused the offense I'd say that is between me and you :wink: .

Arella Mae wrote:

And if it offends me, then it does concern me and since you are the one that caused the offense I'd say that is between me and you :wink: .

What was between me and you was the improper use of YOUR name. Which you'll notice I've corrected.

The improper use of god's name is between god and myself.

If you're offended, then that only concerns you, I did not cause the offense, you did. I may have offended god, but that is not the same as offending you. You have the sole power to choose what you will and will not be offended at.

maporsche wrote:

Arella Mae wrote:

And if it offends me, then it does concern me and since you are the one that caused the offense I'd say that is between me and you :wink: .

What was between me and you was the improper use of YOUR name. Which you'll notice I've corrected.

The improper use of god's name is between god and myself.

If you're offended, then that only concerns you, I did not cause the offense, you did. I may have offended god, but that is not the same as offending you. You have the sole power to choose what you will and will not be offended at.

I am offended when anyone uses vulgar language. I consider what you did vulgar language; therefore, you offended me by using it.