Though it may seem to multiply elements, it may perhaps be the quintessential explanation in favor of free will.
neologist wrote:rosborne979 wrote:And the reason is? . . .You think a population of peole who live forever wouldn't 'upset' the balance of nature? It's not even natural to suggest such a thing.
Putting aside the fact that it's un-natural for organisms to live forever. An endless population of humans would simply grow unchecked until they exceeded their resources, at which point starvation and stress would begin to kill them. And while that would be 'natural', it wouldn't be much of a balance.
neologist wrote:Though it may seem to multiply elements, it may perhaps be the quintessential explanation in favor of free will.
Free will is not in question. It needs no explanation, it never has. You're just adding more and more unecessary complexity to everything in an attempt to rationalize and justify your own belief in a personal god. Give it up. The answer is obvious; your assumptions are wrong.
Free will is not in question in the natural world. It's only in question in your world.
ros, very cool response. At least Cartman's anal probes make sense to me now.
neo, I'd be satisfied with a proper alternate theory. At the moment, the ID proposition is like pointing at a few missing bricks in the Great Wall of China and assuming that proves the thing was built by magic, and then proposing which kind of magic with no link between the magic and the evidence.
How typical that none of those who support ID have an answer to this, the simplest of questions about the so-called ID theory.
Yes, this is very typical. I always enjoy watching them squirm whenever they encounter such a question.
Quote:How typical that none of those who support ID have an answer to this, the simplest of questions about the so-called ID theory.
Of course there are answers but who wants to go back to the beginning when there's a well established thread on the matter elsewhere.
Quote:Yes, this is very typical. I always enjoy watching them squirm whenever they encounter such a question.
What hubris. I'm not squirming. It elementary stuff. Capable of being understood by 12 year olds.
I wouldn't dig through a dumpster to find a penny, nor will I dig through 7,600+ responses to find your answer to the question posed by Eorl.
You present a human race with no ability to self govern.
Interestingly, Adam and Eve were told to
And, how did you decide it would be unnatural for humans to live forever?
If you are saying you believe in free will
you would be one of the few on this board holding such a position.
And, I must say, I find your sweeping dismissal of my arguments quite amusing, coming from one who professes a modicum of learning.
Of course I believe in free will. I choose every single move I make. I choose what to write in this post, and I choose when to leave my chair.
Nor would I expect anyone designating himself "megamanXplosion" to do so. Quickies are in order. Instant gratification. No effort. No sacrifice. Gimme gimme. The one-eyed midget shouting the word "NOW!".
A total abdication of any scientific principle.
neologist wrote:You present a human race with no ability to self govern.
No I don't. I present the opposite.
neologist wrote:Interestingly, Adam and Eve were told to
Stop right there. Adam and Eve didn't exist. It was just a story.
neologist wrote:And, how did you decide it would be unnatural for humans to live forever?
I didn't decide anything. It IS un-natural, as we can clearly see demonstrated by every scrap of life on this planet.
How neat to win every argument by simply shouting 'Stop right there. You're wrong.'
real life wrote:How neat to win every argument by simply shouting 'Stop right there. You're wrong.'
It's not like I said anything extraordinary RL. All I said is that Adam and Eve didn't exist. The tooth fairy doesn't exist, Santa Clause doesn't exist, Leprechauns don't exist and Adam and Eve didn't exist. All those things are JUST as obvious. They are the same.
Are you really telling us that you belive Adam and Eve existed, and not just in an allegorical form? Let's be clear, go ahead and say it.
Interesting also that science is looking at the possibility that all humans descended from one woman.