If only they would do as we demand

Well by golly who do they think they are to not recognize the Bush administration's genius? This really sucks.

My sentiments exactly... how dare they question GWB & Co!!

Yeah, before they know it, they'll be included in the "axis of evil." c.i.

Specially France.

Dys, another quote from your link:

"European officials say the agreements Washington seeks would grant blanket immunity for all Americans -- including terrorists or mercenaries serving foreign governments. "What you cannot do is create a double system of justice, one for the rest of the world and one for Americans," said Irune Aguirrezabal, European coordinator of the Coalition for the ICC, an umbrella group of nongovernment organizations. "

Well, GW has shown how easy it is to create a dougble system of justice, always favoring this administration. Why does the rest of the world see this so clearly while most of the citizens of this country blindly go along with whatever GW asks for?

we don't have terrorists, we have covert special ops assisting freedom fighters.

Can you imagine? On April 11 an International Criminal Court (ICC), which would claim moral and legal authority over the United States and the entire planet, was born. Among the several nations ratifying the treaty that day were "such supposed havens of tolerance and due process as Cambodia, Romania, Jordan, and the so-called Democratic Republic of the Congo."

We cannot let this pass. Here's the truth. The real purpose of this court is to grant every communist, tyrant, thug and radical activist a day in court to prosecute the United States.

Think about it. This epitomizes everything U.N. - to bring "law and order" to a community via the empowerment of the mob as peace officer, judge, jury, legislator and mayor.

It's lunacy.

But there's more. The process that created the ICC proves that U.N. claims to a democratic vision are false. Sixty signatures out of a total of 180 member states legitimized this court.

What have we, then? A U.N. that believes in democracy? No. A U.N. Charter modeled after our constitutional republic? Certainly not! A budding communist/fascist dictatorship posturing as the world's freedom fighter? Perhaps.

Consider:

Minority Rule

Minority rule is a principle of "democracy" under communism. Regarding the International Criminal Court, the strategy was to permit member nations to vote (via signature), demonstrating how "democratic" the U.N. is. Next, spit on "democratic" principle by letting 1/3 rule. Finally, insure the leftists in the U.S. media ignore the truth - and poof! "Democracy," U.N. style.

Anti-American Legal Principles

As pro-communist and anti-representative the creation of the ICC was, its legal principles are equally un-American. Consider:

There is no right to trial by jury.

There is no right to a speedy trial.

Judges, prosecutors and counsel are drawn from murderous totalitarian and authoritarian regimes with juridical views completely at odds with Western concepts of law and justice and specifically hateful toward America and Americans.

There is no appeal of an ICC decision, except to the same ICC court.

A person convicted under the ICC may be sentenced to prison anywhere in the world the ICC chooses.

An ICC prosecutor may decide to bring charges against an individual based on NGOs such as the ACLU, the Environmental Defense Fund, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, etc.

U.N. Founders and Their Agenda

In government nothing occurs by accident. A dark cloud of suspicion has ever hung over the U.N., for good reason.

Of the 17 individuals identified by the U.S. State Department as having helped shape U.S. policy leading to the creation of the United Nations, all but one were later identified as secret members of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA).

Joining them at the U.N.'s founding conference were 43 members of the ultra pro-socialist, globalist Council on Foreign Relations, (six of them also CPUSA members).

The U.N.'s first secretary-general and orchestrator of the San Francisco conference, Alger Hiss, was later convicted as a Soviet agent.

No wonder former top Communist Party member Joseph Z. Kornfeder warned:

"I need not be a member of the United Nations Secretariat to know that the U.N. 'blueprint' is a communist one. ... [The U.N.] and the Kremlin masterminds behind [it] never intended the U.N. as a peacekeeping organization. What they had in mind was a colossal Trojan horse; ... a pattern for sociological conquest; a pattern designed to serve the purpose of Communist penetration of the West. It is ingenious and deceptive."

The ploy? Cry peace! Create a world coalition dominated by nations unfriendly to the United States. Legislate and litigate the U.S. to death.

ICC on the Same Track

From the start, the U.N. has hated America, capitalism and Christianity. Nothing has changed. At any given conference, the U.N. delegates give communist dictator Fidel Castro standing ovations.

Question: Why?

Answer: Castro is the U.N.'s anti-U.S. attack dog, the U.N.'s mentor on employing international law against America.

The ICC thinks like Castro.

The theme of the 1998 ICC founding conference in Rome was gang up on the United States as the sole evildoer in the world. Using vaguely defined crimes of genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity and aggression - which the ICC asserts jurisdiction over - official ICC delegates and NGO spokesmen condemned the U.S. for war crimes in Vietnam, Cambodia and Yugoslavia; for death squads in Guatemala; for unfair application of the death penalty; for economic discrimination; and for excessive deference to victims' rights.

And yet they want more ways to get at the U.S. Thus delegates assured the claimants that the court's future jurisdiction might include ecological crimes, terrorism, drug trafficking, money laundering, piracy, child pornography, kidnapping, political assassination, religious persecution, discrimination based on sexual orientation, etc.

You see the problem.

The ICC is a bad idea. Coming forth by non-democratic means, with totalitarian legal principles and a sock-it-to-the-U.S. agenda, presents one more layer of evidence that the United Nations is a Trojan horse that ought not to be reformed, but abolished.

McGentrix, I agree that there are many countries in the UN who are led by murdererous tyrants; but I think the threat of communist control is irrelevant. If we don't work for a good world court, trying to overcome the inequities, I see no hope for the world.
The point here is that the US administration is once again putting the US in a position outside the law.

Who are the Communist Americans who helped form the UN? There is no proof Alger Hiss was one. The Rockefellers, who donated land for it, surely aren't a family of Communists.

It was that Roooooooooosevelt feller . . . a pinko if ever there was one, an' a closet Jew to boot ! ! !

How many "communist" countries are there in the world today? c.i.

I can find several "communist leagues," but can't seem to find communist countries. http://www.yclusa.org/links/wrldlink.html
c.i.

Is there anywhere a specification of reciprocity? For instance, should someone from another country be picked up here, and claim he was being held because of a political cause, be granted immunity? Or does this only apply to US citizens?

Commies!!

Commies!! I knews it all along, fetch me mah shootin' iron Ma! To thinks I was so sure it waz them faggits, them there Jew-boys and green aliens with big-eyes from Pluto!

**** all chance of the USA ever being dragged into an international court to answer for its actions, or that of any of its citizens:

Yes please, Mcgentrix - please justify your claim about the US delegates who helped set up the UN being communists.

Who said so - HUAC?

Hey; we got the biggest baddest stick.