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Islamic or Republican Fascism?

 
 
Reply Thu 21 Sep, 2006 12:09 am
Excerpted from CommonDreams.org Sept. 20, 2006
"Reclaiming the Issues: Islamic or Republican Fascism"?

Recommend reading the article in its entirety. It's quite interesting. So is this excerpt:


In Sinclair Lewis's 1935 novel "It Can't Happen Here," a conservative southern politician is helped to the presidency by a nationally syndicated "conservative" radio talk show host. The politician - Buzz Windrip - runs his campaign on family values, the flag, and patriotism. Windrip and the talk show host portray advocates of traditional American democracy as anti-American. When Windrip becomes President, he opens a Guantanamo-style detention center, and the viewpoint character of the book, Vermont newspaper editor Doremus Jessup, flees to Canada to avoid prosecution under new "patriotic" laws that make it illegal to criticize the President. As Lewis noted in his novel:


"The President, with something of his former good-humor [said]: 'There are two [political] parties, the Corporate and those who don't belong to any party at all, and so, to use a common phrase, are just out of luck!' The idea of the Corporate or Corporative State, Secretary [of State] Sarason had more or less taken from Italy." And, President "Windrip's partisans called themselves the Corporatists, or, familiarly, the 'Corpos,' which nickname was generally used."
Lewis, the first American writer to win a Nobel Prize, was world famous by 1944, as was his book "It Can't Happen Here." And several well-known and powerful Americans, including Prescott Bush, had lost businesses in the early 1940s because of charges by Roosevelt that they were doing business with Hitler. These events all, no doubt, colored Vice President Wallace's thinking when he wrote in The New York Times:

"Still another danger is represented by those who, paying lip service to democracy and the common welfare, in their insatiable greed for money and the power which money gives, do not hesitate surreptitiously to evade the laws designed to safeguard the public from monopolistic extortion. American fascists of this stamp were clandestinely aligned with their German counterparts before the war, and are even now preparing to resume where they left off, after 'the present unpleasantness' ceases."


**********Looks like it CAN happen in the US. And is.
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mrcool011
 
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Reply Thu 21 Sep, 2006 12:48 am
Or how about Democrat fascism? Lets face the facts, Fascism is a danger from both sides. Its not a partisan politics issue

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1517329/posts

http://thedumbdemocrat.blogspot.com/2004/06/fascism-and-modern-liberalism.html
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pachelbel
 
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Reply Thu 21 Sep, 2006 11:12 pm
mrcool011 wrote:
Or how about Democrat fascism? Lets face the facts, Fascism is a danger from both sides. Its not a partisan politics issue

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1517329/posts

http://thedumbdemocrat.blogspot.com/2004/06/fascism-and-modern-liberalism.html


Did I say anything about any particular political party? No.

As usual, I am so very impressed by your sources. Where DO you get them? Cracker Jacks boxes?
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mrcool011
 
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Reply Thu 21 Sep, 2006 11:14 pm
pachelbel wrote:
mrcool011 wrote:
Or how about Democrat fascism? Lets face the facts, Fascism is a danger from both sides. Its not a partisan politics issue

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1517329/posts

http://thedumbdemocrat.blogspot.com/2004/06/fascism-and-modern-liberalism.html


Did I say anything about any particular political party? No.

As usual, I am so very impressed by your sources. Where DO you get them? Cracker Jacks boxes?


haha and your sources are any better? Rolling Eyes
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pachelbel
 
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Reply Thu 21 Sep, 2006 11:32 pm
mrcool011 wrote:
pachelbel wrote:
mrcool011 wrote:
Or how about Democrat fascism? Lets face the facts, Fascism is a danger from both sides. Its not a partisan politics issue

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1517329/posts

http://thedumbdemocrat.blogspot.com/2004/06/fascism-and-modern-liberalism.html


Did I say anything about any particular political party? No.

As usual, I am so very impressed by your sources. Where DO you get them? Cracker Jacks boxes?


haha and your sources are any better? Rolling Eyes


You didn't answer my question. I am so surprised. Couldn't find another one in that cracker jack box?
frankly I'd trust reference.com or wikipedia over your farticles, or the dumb democrat.

how about www.democracyfordummies.com
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2006 12:04 am
A Democrat is someone committed to imposing his idea of good on other people with their money.
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mrcool011
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2006 12:25 am
pachelbel wrote:
mrcool011 wrote:
pachelbel wrote:
mrcool011 wrote:
Or how about Democrat fascism? Lets face the facts, Fascism is a danger from both sides. Its not a partisan politics issue

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1517329/posts

http://thedumbdemocrat.blogspot.com/2004/06/fascism-and-modern-liberalism.html


Did I say anything about any particular political party? No.

As usual, I am so very impressed by your sources. Where DO you get them? Cracker Jacks boxes?


haha and your sources are any better? Rolling Eyes


You didn't answer my question. I am so surprised. Couldn't find another one in that cracker jack box?
frankly I'd trust reference.com or wikipedia over your farticles, or the dumb democrat.

how about www.democracyfordummies.com


Yes YOU trust it but that does not make it a good source. Your sources are horrible
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MarionT
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2006 12:35 am
You are saying that only because the material does not reinforce your biases.
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mrcool011
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2006 12:37 am
MarionT wrote:
You are saying that only because the material does not reinforce your biases.


As is he. :wink:
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djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2006 03:32 am
pachelbel wrote:
Did I say anything about any particular political party? No.



no love for the republican party on my part, but you did use the name in the thread title

perhaps conservative would have been a better choice, or christian, but that would open up a whole other can of worms
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pachelbel
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 11:32 pm
mrcool011 wrote:
MarionT wrote:
You are saying that only because the material does not reinforce your biases.


As is he. :wink:


You're right, MarionT. sources from sites called 'farticles' or 'nightmare' don't have any credibility. Laughing


Apparently mCcool you have not yet read the article in its entirety.
I did not write the article, merely pasted it in. I gave you the website for it.

If you didn't read it, you cannot comment on it either.

Whether it's Republican or Demo doesn't matter to me. It's just one big party in the States anyway.

I was pointing out similarities between what S. Lewis said in his book in 1935 and America today. Rather than splitting hairs about which political party you belong to you're missing the forest for the trees.
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pachelbel
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 11:45 pm
timberlandko wrote:
A Democrat is someone committed to imposing his idea of good on other people with their money.


You think?

The Republicans are imposing a very, very expensive war for a nebulous and questionable idea of 'good' on other people with their money.

This 'war' on 'terror' is a cash cow for BushCo.

You people really like to pay taxes to build defense weapons? Don't you have enough, already?

Why don't you spend those tax dollars on:
better schools
medical coverage for the citizenry
infrastructure (like levees)
etc etc

instead of imposing YOUR idea of democracy on others. At the end of a gun barrel no less. Way to go, America.
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