Clash of Civilizations? Really? Is it?

dyslexia wrote:

"clash of civilizations"? Hardly.

Explain Dys?

The arrogant Americans also plunged the world into war in 1914 and 1941.

ossobuco wrote:

Atavistic says -
There are plenty of Arabs who do not hate America, but if it came down to a war, whose side are they going to choose?


This kind of thinking has held too much sway. Not everyone in a state or country or region or even in a religion is out to get everybody else. Most are trying to live reasonable lives with family or other associates. Why people think of us all as acting as some kind of amalgamated block forms is beyond me except that it's simpler and politically expedient on various sides.

I don't understand your reasoning. Before World War 2, few Americans had anything against the Germans, but they dutifully fought and died to stop them anyway. It's not about being "out to get somebody." These wars are often beyond the control of the average person. God forbid we got attacked tommorrow by say, China, are you going to say, "well I have nothing against the Chinese so this doesn't involve me?"

Atavistic wrote:

ossobuco wrote:

Atavistic says -
There are plenty of Arabs who do not hate America, but if it came down to a war, whose side are they going to choose?


This kind of thinking has held too much sway. Not everyone in a state or country or region or even in a religion is out to get everybody else. Most are trying to live reasonable lives with family or other associates. Why people think of us all as acting as some kind of amalgamated block forms is beyond me except that it's simpler and politically expedient on various sides.

I don't understand your reasoning. Before World War 2, few Americans had anything against the Germans, but they dutifully fought and died to stop them anyway. It's not about being "out to get somebody." These wars are often beyond the control of the average person. God forbid we got attacked tommorrow by say, China, are you going to say, "well I have nothing against the Chinese so this doesn't involve me?"

Would we then encourage rounding up all the Arab-Americans and putting them in concentration camps, as they did with the Japanese in WW2.

There are plenty of Arabs who do not hate America, but if it came down to a war, whose side are they going to choose

Japanese American Internment refers to the forcible relocation of approximately 110,000 Japanese and Japanese Americans (62 percent of whom were United States citizens) from the west coast during World War II to hastily constructed housing facilities called "War Relocation Camps" in remote portions of the nation's interior.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt authorized the internment with Executive Order 9066, which allowed local military commanders to designate "military areas" as "exclusion zones", from which "any or all persons may be excluded." Twelve days later, this power was used to declare that all people of Japanese ancestry were excluded from the entire Pacific coast, including all of California and most of Oregon and Washington. In 1944, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the exclusion, removal, and detention, arguing that it is permissible to curtail the civil rights of a racial group when there is a "pressing public necessity".

I am fully aware what was done to the Japanese. I was referring to non-American Arabs. I would fully expect any Americans of Arab descent to be loyal to America.

Atavistic wrote:

I am fully aware what was done to the Japanese. I was referring to non-American Arabs. I would fully expect any Americans of Arab descent to be loyal to America.

Gotcha.
My bad.

Of course, the apologists for the Bush regime and for FDR and Wilson would never admit that the US is now and has been a nation bent on wielding its massive power over the whole world. The US did cause the wars in 1914 and 1941. Only the US defenders would hold that to be incorrect. Again, you must ask the question- Who Profits? In both wars, it was the United States!

The US did cause the wars in 1914 and 1941. Only the US defenders would hold that to be incorrect. Again, you must ask the question- Who Profits? In both wars, it was the United States!

Of course, the apologists for the Bush regime and for FDR and Wilson would never admit that the US is now and has been a nation bent on wielding its massive power over the whole world. The US did cause the wars in 1914 and 1941. Only the US defenders would hold that to be incorrect. Again, you must ask the question- Who Profits? In both wars, it was the United States!