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ABC Considering Yanking 9/11 Mini-series

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 01:37 am
McGentrix wrote:
Their are no liberals in higher education, hadn't you heard?


Did you mean "There"?


Hmmmmm....interesting....
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 01:44 am
NickFun wrote:
It started off as a "docu-drama" then wound up as a work of pure fiction. We don't need fictionalized accounts of the tragedy of 9/11.


I have no problem with that if they announce themselves as fictional, and make no claim to accuracy, in alnguage even idiots can understand, and frequently in the course of the film.

If the thing claims to be accurate, then it should be so, as far as human frailty allows.

Ditto with the conspiracy nuts....only they do not have the clout I assume goes with ABC.

With power and influence goes reponsibility.


Thus, I regard Bush's lies as more serious than ABC's, and ABC's as more serious than some avowed conspiracy nut's rantings...
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 10:27 am
BBB
An article posted by Timber on another thread:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=82342&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50

attributes Patterson's book as the basis for the TV show according to the producer, not the 9/11 Commission Report as it claims. That is a big lie that explains the lies in the TV show.

If you check out Petterson, you will find that he is right wing Republican. As far as his designation as a "Clinton Administration aide", that is really a stretch. In fact, he was the man that carried the "football", the suitcase carrying the nuclear trigger. In other words, he was a go-for, and not involved in anything other than lugging around the football. He's the military equivalent of Ann Coulter.---BBB

The following is from Publishers Weekly:

No man is a hero to his valet-or his personal military aide, to judge by this memoir of the Clinton White House by a retired Air Force colonel who carried Clinton's "nuclear football" and had intimate access to the President from morning jog to evening card game. Although Patterson claims to have no political agenda and to personally like the man, he revisits all the familiar touchstones of conservative Clinton-hatred (he also suggests that the former president bears some responsibility for the events of 9/11). In Patterson's account, Clinton emerges as a careless, disingenuous frat boy, mercilessly hen-pecked by the domineering Hillary, whose tirades leave him looking like a "beaten puppy." He presides over a chaotic administration focused on spin and fund-raising; he fondles an Air Force One stewardess and ogles Patterson's wife in the Oval Office; he loses the nuclear launch codes; and he cheats at golf-which Patterson views as "not just a peccadillo but symptomatic of the way he approached life." Patterson also asserts that Clinton "directly and severely harmed this nation's security." Clinton debilitated the military, Patterson claims, by downsizing it, trying to remove the ban on homosexuals and put women in combat roles, "gutting morale" with pay freezes and "rudderless" peace-keeping missions, and turning it into an "armed social services agency." Worst of all, Clinton was soft on terrorism and missed a chance to get bin Laden with cruise missiles. Patterson raises important issues, but he seems most often affronted by what he sees as Clinton's belief that he "was privileged to conduct himself at a much lower code of conduct than the men or women he would repeatedly order into harm's way." There's a case to be made for Clinton's laxness on security matters, but Patterson's rendition is too anecdotal and brief, as well as too disgruntled-offended, even-to convince many.


What are Patterson'stest activities:

Lt. Col. Buzz Patterson - Board Member, Move America Forward

Lieutenant Colonel Robert "Buzz" Patterson, United States Air Force (Retired), has joined the Board of Move America Forward. He provides strategic input, guidance and takes direct action to mobilize Americans to support our troops, the war on terrorism and the national security of the United States.

Buzz is host of a weekly radio program on RighTalk.com radio - "The Buzz Cut."

"The Buzz Cut" is also the name of his regular column, which is carried by the conservative national newsweekly, Human Events.

Lt. Col. Buzz Patterson is the author of two New York Times best selling books, Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security and his recently completed Reckless Disregard: How Liberal Democrats Undercut Our Military, Endanger Our Soldiers, and Jeopardize Our Security, which was released in July 2004.

Patterson served 20 years on active duty in the military with distinction and saw tours of duty as an Air Force pilot during combat operations in Grenada, Somalia, Rwanda, Haiti, and Bosnia.

From 1996 to 1998, Colonel Patterson was the Senior Military Aide to President Bill Clinton. During that time he was responsible for the President's Emergency Satchel, otherwise known as the "Nuclear Football," the black bag with the nation's nuclear capability that accompanies the president at all times. In addition, Colonel Patterson was operational commander for all military units assigned to the White House, to include Air Force One, Marine One, Camp David, White House Transportation Agency and White House Mess.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 10:30 am
BBB
An article posted by Timber on another thread:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=82342&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50

attributes Patterson's book as the basis for the TV show according to the producer, not the 9/11 Commission Report as it claims. That is a big lie that explains the lies in the TV show.

"In an interview with WND, retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson said producer and writer Cyrus Nowrasteh called him the morning of Sept. 1, explaining he had used Patterson's book "Dereliction of Duty" as a source for the drama.

Later that day, Nowrasteh brought a preview copy of "The Path to 9/11" to Patterson for him to view at home. Patterson, who says he has talked with the director seven or eight times since then, also received a phone call from an ABC senior vice president, Quinn Taylor."


If you check out Petterson, you will find that he is right wing Republican. As far as his designation as a "Clinton Administration aide", that is really a stretch. In fact, he was the man that carried the "football", the suitcase carrying the nuclear trigger. In other words, he was a go-for, and not involved in anything other than lugging around the football. He's the military equivalent of Ann Coulter.---BBB

The following is from Publishers Weekly:

No man is a hero to his valet-or his personal military aide, to judge by this memoir of the Clinton White House by a retired Air Force colonel who carried Clinton's "nuclear football" and had intimate access to the President from morning jog to evening card game. Although Patterson claims to have no political agenda and to personally like the man, he revisits all the familiar touchstones of conservative Clinton-hatred (he also suggests that the former president bears some responsibility for the events of 9/11). In Patterson's account, Clinton emerges as a careless, disingenuous frat boy, mercilessly hen-pecked by the domineering Hillary, whose tirades leave him looking like a "beaten puppy." He presides over a chaotic administration focused on spin and fund-raising; he fondles an Air Force One stewardess and ogles Patterson's wife in the Oval Office; he loses the nuclear launch codes; and he cheats at golf-which Patterson views as "not just a peccadillo but symptomatic of the way he approached life." Patterson also asserts that Clinton "directly and severely harmed this nation's security." Clinton debilitated the military, Patterson claims, by downsizing it, trying to remove the ban on homosexuals and put women in combat roles, "gutting morale" with pay freezes and "rudderless" peace-keeping missions, and turning it into an "armed social services agency." Worst of all, Clinton was soft on terrorism and missed a chance to get bin Laden with cruise missiles. Patterson raises important issues, but he seems most often affronted by what he sees as Clinton's belief that he "was privileged to conduct himself at a much lower code of conduct than the men or women he would repeatedly order into harm's way." There's a case to be made for Clinton's laxness on security matters, but Patterson's rendition is too anecdotal and brief, as well as too disgruntled-offended, even-to convince many.


What are Patterson's latest activities:

Lt. Col. Buzz Patterson - Board Member, Move America Forward

Lieutenant Colonel Robert "Buzz" Patterson, United States Air Force (Retired), has joined the Board of Move America Forward. He provides strategic input, guidance and takes direct action to mobilize Americans to support our troops, the war on terrorism and the national security of the United States.

Buzz is host of a weekly radio program on RighTalk.com radio - "The Buzz Cut."

"The Buzz Cut" is also the name of his regular column, which is carried by the conservative national newsweekly, Human Events.

Lt. Col. Buzz Patterson is the author of two New York Times best selling books, Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security and his recently completed Reckless Disregard: How Liberal Democrats Undercut Our Military, Endanger Our Soldiers, and Jeopardize Our Security, which was released in July 2004.

Patterson served 20 years on active duty in the military with distinction and saw tours of duty as an Air Force pilot during combat operations in Grenada, Somalia, Rwanda, Haiti, and Bosnia.

From 1996 to 1998, Colonel Patterson was the Senior Military Aide to President Bill Clinton. During that time he was responsible for the President's Emergency Satchel, otherwise known as the "Nuclear Football," the black bag with the nation's nuclear capability that accompanies the president at all times. In addition, Colonel Patterson was operational commander for all military units assigned to the White House, to include Air Force One, Marine One, Camp David, White House Transportation Agency and White House Mess.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 10:51 am
dlowan wrote:
NickFun wrote:
It started off as a "docu-drama" then wound up as a work of pure fiction. We don't need fictionalized accounts of the tragedy of 9/11.


I have no problem with that if they announce themselves as fictional, and make no claim to accuracy, in alnguage even idiots can understand, and frequently in the course of the film.
..


Origiginally, ABC was going to claim that the account was based on ther 9/11 commission report. They have changed that to "based partly on the 9/11 report." I expect that they will air disclaimers throuhout the broadcast.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 03:43 pm
Well, they didn't...here at least. But they DID put that it is a work of fiction...based on bla bla (not just 9/11 commission report) so I guess they have covered themselves, and they aid they have compressed timelines and done composite characters.


But the study notes thing is rather contradictory with all this.

I haven't checked how much and how many the errors were, as yet, and have not been able to make any judgment as to how partisan it all was.

(Let alone tomorrow's)

One thing that was noteworthy was the emphasis on Clinton's distraction by the Lewinsky thing, all aimed at Clinton, and none at the insane witch hunt by elements of the right.

It will be interesting to check the Madeleine Albright bit, and whether, in fact, Bin Laden WAS ever in their power to assassinate/capture...after American had stopped arming him, of course.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 11 Sep, 2006 07:52 am
BBB
Did anyone else think that a story that might have been interesting was the most ineptly filmed project I've ever seen. I soon lost interest because of the constant movement of the hand held cameras, excessive close-ups, and dark and false-color blury scenes. The entire film felt and looked like incoherant cameramen were suffering from Parkingson's disease.

BBB
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