when guns are outlawed

what the hell is happening here in the states? What kind of crazy regression is goin on? How could we let it happen?

Chris Rock says let's keep the guns and charge 5,000 dollars per bullet.

Ashcroft would just write it off as homeland security costs

I would choose stoning by marshmallows.

for the record i am a gun owner

It is actually an excellent source of revenue for the states.
Minnesota, which just passed a right to carry law plans on selling the licenses for $300, and requiring a gun awareness class which costs another $100.

Not during my life time. c.i.

Americans continue to kill each other, either in anger or for sport, at a greater rate per person then most countries engaged in a civil wars.

"Of the world's 36 wealthiest nations, the U.S. gun death rate for 1994 was the highest at 14.24 per 100,000 people. Asian countries had the lowest rates followed by England and Wales. In 1994, the U.S. accounted for 45 percent of the 88,649 gun deaths in those 36 nations."

We are the richest, best educated, most stable republic on the planet and we continue to outpace the Congo in gun deaths. Wha?


I'm going to go stare out the window.

J

Don't care for the 'back to back' bit. Bit Pythonish, 'Execution? Last meal finished? Lovely. Could you take a number and wait till you're called".

Nice "fact" that doesn't mean a whole lot. The larger % of the 14.42 number are suicides for one thing.

Also, getting rid of guns doesn't eliminate the problem. The rate of unnatural deaths is higher (by far) in Estonia, Hungary, Finland, Denmark, France, Brazil, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, Mexico and Portugal.

They just found other means to kill others and themselves.

RIght to Carry: Pro and Con

Hey, after 34 years ZPG (Zero Population Growth) is now called Population Connection.

Could this be somehow related to guns?

When the gun owning by people is restricted this gives unilateral advantage to felons, since they do not respect laws like the law-abiding citizens do. In the former USSR only two categories of civilians had weapons: cops and criminals. And the plain person having met an armed robber in absence of a cop around had nothing to protect himself with. The only thing helped the plain citizens not to be extinguished: the very low level of serious violent crime under the Communists (drunk brawls to be disregarded: participants were usually unarmed). But this was provided by excessively tough laws and enforcement methods, and not by disarmament of population.