Everyone goes to Heaven.

I'm not sure if I believe in the idea of "consciousness", but I am interested in taking a look at some of the evidence you refer to. Do you know where I can find it? (I'll do some searching on my own, too, and see what I can dig up.)

Perhaps without realizing it, Terry was referring to the words at Psalm 146:4, speaking of a person's death as when "he goes back to his ground;
In that day his thoughts do perish."

Joe Nation wrote:

This life is all there is, kiddos, you get this one shot at doing it right or doing it the way you want which in some cases is the same thing.

Then, pzzzzzt, it's over for you.

Joe(all the other stuff is wishful thinking)Nation

On what do you base this pearl of widsom? I could understand if you indicated that this was your opinion, but you are so dog sure that one would wonder where you get your inside information.

This life is all there is, kiddos, I get this one shot at doing it right or doing it the way I want which in some cases is the same thing.

Then, pzzzzzt, it's over.

Joe(all the other stuff is wishful thinking)Nation

neologist wrote:

Perhaps without realizing it, Terry was referring to the words at Psalm 146:4, speaking of a person's death as when "he goes back to his ground;
In that day his thoughts do perish."

You have quoted that particular verse to me numerous times, but I put no stock in the philosophical musings of men who knew far less than I do about neurobiology - but occasionally happened to get something right.

This life is all there is, kiddos, you get this one shot at doing it right or doing it the way you want which in some cases is the same thing.

Then, pzzzzzt, it's over for you.

Joe(all the other stuff is wishful thinking)Nation

echi wrote:

Great. My thread has deteriorated into a Bible study! That's fine, I guess, except that I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.
You understand the Bible by reasoning it out, don't you? I mean, it is a collection of words, and how you interpret those words depends on your own judgment. So the Bible can introduce you to new ideas that would never occur to you, otherwise. But it is only by reason that we can accept any idea as being "true".
So, IF you agree with that, then what use is the Bible in a discussion/debate about what happens when we die? Or, more to the point, is it necessary to use Biblical terminology?

You were the one who said heaven.
OK, Heph. But in Psalms 146:4 It speaks about the one who dies "In that day his thoughts do perish."

Of course, if you've read enough of my posts, you will see where I speak of a resurrection and of the fact that there will be some from earth who will live in heaven.

WIthout using the bible or any relgion I MUST TOTALLY DISAGREE.

ENERGY only transforms right from one state into another.

Well sorry that has to go the same with LIFE energy too.
Life energy is just more than our bodies.
It is more than the cells in our head.

Havent you ever been looking at something then all of a sudden felt like you were looking through windows instead of eyes? I have. There is more to us than just the body that we see.

THERE IS SOMETHING WITHIN.

I don't accept the whole eternal damnation idea. Of course, there can be rough spots along the way, but eventually you learn to get past it. In a certain sense, I think suffering is a choice. I mean, isn't suffering caused by holding onto false beliefs....