Endymion
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 02:22 am
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Joanna+Lumley+Shows+Support+Gurkhas+Challenging+rFpx-UrMLVUl.jpg
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Endymion
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 02:25 am
"I've got Gurkhas telling me they want to go on hunger strike, and I mean hunger strike to the death. I'm urging them not to do that yet, but I fear that we will see these very honourable decent people pushed to the absolute limit."
Peter Carroll (local councillor).

"We are a morally bankrupt country if we are prepared to ask men to go out and lay their lives down in defence of the country, but then say, 'You're good enough to die for us, but you’re not good enough to come and live amongst us."
Martin Howe (Senior partner in Human Rights Legal Firm).

"My father would be absolutely overwhelmed with shame and fury that we have behaved this way to the Gurkhas, our most loyal and constant friends."
Joanna Lumley - British actress whose father served alongside Tul Bahadur Pun (pictured below) in WWII as Ghurka Officer.
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Endymion
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 02:30 am
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Joanna+Lumley+Shows+Support+Gurkhas+Challenging+r6dHaLH0U3_l.jpg
The British actress Joanna Lumley was born in Kashmir, India, on 1st May 1946.
Her father,Major James Rutherford Lumley, was an officer in the Ghurka Rifles. He fought alongside Tul Bahadur Pun (Nepalese) now aged 87, who received the Victoria Cross for bravery, (along with Lachhiman Gurung, now aged 91).

The men served together in Burma during the Second World War, and a picture of Tul Bahadur Pun was was displayed in the Lumley family home.

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Endymion
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 02:31 am
Last week in central London, Ms Lumley joined hundreds of veterans and supporters as they marched to the High Court, where a hearing has begun on behalf of 2,000 Gurkhas to demand the right to live in Britain.
Almost 50,000 Gurkhas have died fighting for Britain since 1815 and 150,000 have been seriously injured while serving.

Yet thousands of veterans who retired before July 1, 1997, have been forced to live in poverty in their homeland of Nepal.

Hundreds of badly injured soldiers have also been barred from travelling here for treatment. Their lawyers say the law discriminates against the Nepalese Gurkhas as other soldiers from overseas are allowed to settle here after four years of service.

Only Gurkhas who retired from the British Army after July 1, 1997, when their base was moved from Hong Kong to Kent, can automatically stay in the UK.

Miss Lumley, 62, said: "My father would be absolutely overwhelmed with shame and fury that we have behaved this way to the Gurkhas, our most loyal and constant friends."


"I want to see justice done."
The case continues.
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Endymion
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 02:37 am
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/16/article-1056495-02AA683400000578-123_468x286.jpg

An open letter to Tul Bahadur Pun VC and the Ghurkas
Currently seeking justice at the High Court in London

c/o Retired RAF Officer, Democrat Councillor and Justice Campaigner
Mr Peter Carroll
(email) [email protected]


Dear Sirs,

I wish to apologise on behalf of my country's Government, for the shameful way in which the Ghurkas continue to be treated despite their long, distinguished service to the British nation.
The Ghurka's commitment to Regiment and bravery on the battle field has made you a legend and your loyalty and dedication has stood as an example to the home bred British soldier.

Those in power in the House of Commons do not speak for the majority. They speak only for themselves and I for one feel the greatest shame
knowing that many amongst you have died without seeing justice done - That men who fought in WWII, in Burma and such, have passed away without being properly acknowledged for their sacrifice, is a disgrace.

I hear that some Ghurkas are planning to go on hunger strike (to the death) over this issue.
Never before have I felt such humiliation than i do now, hearing that.
I'm very sorry it has come to this. After all your years of struggle - to get to such a point where some of you feel there is nothing else left to do, deeply saddens me. I find my Government's actions both baffling and obscene.

I shall be thinking of you and i shall be doing what i can to support your cause. Please don't give up yet - please don't think that the majority of people in Britain share this Government's morally hateful ideals. May they be forgiven for never knowing any better.

Whereas, some of us do know and do appreciate what you have given this country of your very lives. Make no mistake about that.
For many generations you have been an inspiration to us British, and will continue to be so, not just as soldiers, but as gentlemen.

Ayo Gorkhali!

Sincerely



(This is just an example - but do copy it or write your own letter of support if you feel inclined (e-mail above)
-- and pass this on - if you feel it deserves more attention)

Thank you


Other coverage (Revolution thread, March 2008)

About this campaign
http://shepwaylibdems.org.uk/news/001232/gurkha_justice_court_case_can_you_help_find_key_evidence.html

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Endymion
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2008 07:29 am
On 30th September 2008, High Court Judge, Mr Justice Blake found that Gurkha veterans who were refused visas to settle in the United Kingdom because they retired from the regiment before 1997 were treated unlawfully by the British Government and that the policy used to reject them was misleading.

The judge ruled that the Ministry of Defence's advice to the Home Office on whether to grant settlement to the Gurkhas was confusing, resulting in "irrational and unlawful" restrictions being applied.

The policy needed "urgent revisiting" he said, setting a deadline of three months for the Home Office to "take political responsibility for the outcome where it is answerable to the electorate."
He also ordered the Home Office to pay 80% of the costs of the case.

Another "inconsistency" he said, was the failure of Gurkha veterans of the Falklands war to obtain visas.
Mr Justice Blake contrasted this with the government's treatment of Falkland islanders. It seemed "curious" he said, for the Home Office to conclude that the islanders had sufficient connections with the UK to be allowed residence "but those who risked their lives and limb to bring them their freedom did not."

Martin Howe, the human rights lawyer representing the Gurkhas, called the ruling "A tremendous and historic victory."


Listen

http://download.guardian.co.uk/audio/kip/standalone/uk/1222848996400/3115/gdn.nws.081001.tm.Audrey-Gillan.mp3

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The Gurkhas had good reason to celebrate following the ruling " but it is just the first step on the march to Justice. For example, the Ghurkas still only receive a quarter of the pension received by British and Commonwealth troops.
And that includes those who are fighting out in Iraq and Afghanistan for us, right now.

The ruling only says that the MOD has been unlawful in their treatment of Gurkhas with regards residency in the UK" it makes no ruling as to what the revised treatment should be. For instance, the Government may still try and deny men such as Lance Corporal Rai, whose story appeared recently in the Guardian. (I'll post that up later).

Now is the time for us all in Britain to demand that the Government DO THE RIGHT THING
A message from Ms Lumley to the British Public

The Gurkhas have indeed won a famous victory in their landmark case this week (Residency ruling, October 1). However, the judge was only able to declare the current policy that excludes pre-1997 Gurkhas from the right to live in the UK as unlawful. Only the government can put in place the new policy that the British people want - the right of all Gurkhas to settle in the UK irrespective of the date of retirement. There is a real danger that the government will fudge this opportunity and bring in new rules that still discriminate against pre-1997 retirees. I am asking the British public to sign up to my website in their millions so that I might go, within days, to the prime minister with the largest ever petition on this issue to show him the strength of feeling from all sections of society.
Joanna Lumley

www.gurkhajustice.org.uk


************************************************************************

One Gurkha


On June 11 1982, Lance Corporal Rai - a drummer with the 1st Battalion, 7th Gurkha Rifles - almost lost his life during the final assault on Port Stanley. Seriously injured, he received five pints of blood donated by British soldiers, and the skin that was grafted upon the hole in his back was taken from one of his fallen comrades.

Rai retired from the regiment before July 1997 and was refused a visa on the grounds that his application "failed to demonstrate strong ties to the United Kingdom".

Mr Justice Blake said of Falklands veterans such as himself that it seemed "curious" for the Home Office to conclude that the islanders had sufficient connections with the UK to be allowed residence "but those who risked their lives and limb to bring them their freedom did not".

From his home in Nepal, he said of the judgment: "I am very, very happy. I heard that we had won and I am feeling good. I would like to thank the British people who have helped us. I will apply for my visa because I absolutely want to come to the UK. I have been waiting such a long time. In the course of this legal action, seven of my fellow Gurkha veterans have died waiting and this makes me very sad. I want my visa to be processed very soon."

Rai still struggles from the pain in his side caused by the artillery and he believes he is suffering from post traumatic stress disorder, something for which there is no treatment in his home country.

"I hope that by finally being allowed into the UK I might find some peace, that the doctors will treat me and I will become better," he said.



Source: The Guardian UK


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Endymion
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 09:23 pm
This is how THE TROOPS DON'T GET SUPPORTED

Latest
http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/editorial/display.var.2461428.0.Damning_indictment.php

Veterans arrested in protest outside debate
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/10/military_veteransarrested_debate_101608w/
photos http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2008/10/100775.html
Voices from the IVAW Debate (transcript)
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/16/15_arrested_outside_presidential_debate_in

UK Gulf war veterans call for action
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/oct/18/health.military

Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army's Top Medical Facility
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/17/AR2007021701172_5.html

Betrayal
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1545999/Wounded-soldiers-betrayed-by-delays.html

If people REALLY gave a **** about the troops and what they need - they would get up off their fat ******* arses and go and march and put themselves out there to demand we either support them properly with full equipment, men, and food even (Yeah that's right, FOOD) - or BRING THEM THE **** HOME

How much more ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/1445541/Clear-headed-courage-and-highest-bravery.html
LEST WE FORGET
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Endymion
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 09:37 pm
Secrets of Iraq's death chamber
Robert Fisk reports
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/secrets-of-iraqs-death-chamber-953517.html

does anyone even remember iraq?
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Endymion
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 09:44 pm

Soldiers' families furious over £100m perks for top brass

Officers get chauffeurs, chefs and private school fees, while troops die for lack of equipment


By Andrew Johnson and Brian Brady
Sunday, 19 October 2008

Britain's military top brass receive nearly £100m a year in special allowances and benefits, with almost £87m of that spent on paying for private school fees for their children.

Figures released to The Independent on Sunday under the Freedom of Information Act show that, in the last financial year, £86.8m was spent on private education for officers' children.

Relatives of British service personnel killed in combat as a result of equipment failures reacted angrily to the news that senior officers enjoy such benefits while troops on the ground struggle with inadequate kit.

In the RAF alone, £1m was spent on chauffeurs, £3.4m on waiters and waitresses in officers' messes and a further £800,000 on bar staff. Chefs dedicated to serving senior officers cost another £2.8m a year. This adds another £8m to the bill, bringing the known total spent on special privileges to at least £95m.

The MoD argues that the children of all service personnel are eligible for the Continuity of Education Allowance, which reimburses up to 90 per cent of school fees. But ministers are so concerned about this system that the defence minister Kevan Jones has ordered a review.

The department is now considering staff support based on a percentage of their salaries. "It was clear that the higher ranks were benefiting significantly from this scheme," a senior MoD source said yesterday. "It is agreed that if we are going to offer this sort of support, it should be fairly spread across all ranks."

The revelations come at a time of chronic staff and equipment shortages across the military. Just last week the MoD was again criticised by a coroner for failing to supply basic equipment that he said could have saved a soldier's life. Corporal Mark Wright, 27, died after a mine exploded while he attempted to help an injured colleague trapped in a minefield in September 2006. A helicopter with a winch was not available to rescue the pair. A Chinook without a winch was sent, but it could not land, and the "downwash" triggered the explosion.

The £95m-plus figure spent on officers' perks last year would buy three Chinook helicopters or more than 100 Mastiff vehicles, 9,500 suits of body armour or a Typhoon fighter and pilot training. Reg Keys, whose son Thomas was one of six military police killed by a mob in Iraq, said the figure "left a bitter taste" in his mouth. His son died after being unable to summon help from nearby soldiers in 2003 because the men had no satellite phone.

"I find it abhorrent," he said. "My son died for the want of a distress flare, which costs a couple of quid. Yet they can find all this money for officers."

Steve Jary, national secretary of the civil service union Prospect, which represents MoD civilian staff, argued that the MoD was struggling to cope with equipping troops on the front line because of a shortage of skilled staff. "The MoD spends around £120m a year on defence clothing " that's everything from body armour to helmets to boots. Almost as much as that is spent on perks for officers. There is a shortage of engineers and an acute shortage of nuclear engineers."

Commander John Muxworthy of the UK National Defence Association, however, argued that the education allowance was an "invaluable tool in keeping highly trained officers and senior people", particularly in the Navy.

An MoD spokesman said: "There is a requirement for some senior officers to host both external and internal functions. It is therefore legitimate to provide the necessary basic support." He added that all service personnel were able to claim education allowances.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 19 Oct, 2008 08:44 am
I'm a readin, endy.
Endymion
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2008 05:08 pm
@edgarblythe,
Hey edgar - thanks for everything
i've had it for a bit
i'll catch up with you later
take it easy

wishing you peace
e
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2008 05:17 pm
@Endymion,
If wishing Ed peace has an effect on Ed's peace then you are into action at a distance for good. That's white magic Endy.

Sending him $1600 is a much more effective way of bringing peace to Ed and to his neighbourhood.
Endymion
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2008 06:00 pm
@spendius,
Do it then


Endymion
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2008 06:01 pm
@Endymion,
See ya Laughing

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Endymion
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2008 04:22 am
Right, it's 09:56 where i am and over in the USA, it is... 03:48 (according to the a2k clock) - on the 4th of November 2008 and Barrak Obama has won Dixville Notch, NH, (the first place to vote) in what is shaping up to be the most significant American election since... well, since the last one.
But it's more than that of course - for one major reason - and that is because Barrak Obama is black.
Oh - and there is one other important factor... he is seeing out (hopefully) the most loathsome politicians of my life-time.
In Dixville (is that name for real?) Bush Beat Kerry 19-7...
(What were they thinking?)
Obama is the first Dem to win there since 1968!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/obama-wins-dixville-notch_n_140790.html

Although (as i've voiced else where) I don't trust the Democrat party, I also (as stated elsewhere) am looking forward to seeing Obama take the White House.

I want him to do it for ALL the blacks of America, past and present. Especially the ones who were dragged screaming from their villages in Africa and fed into the slave machine (by my country as well as the US).
I want him to do it for all the Chicken George's and Kunta Kinte's...
In memory of the great Martin Luther King - Malcolm X and Rosa Parks.
I want to see him do it for Armstrong and Hendrix and every black man, woman and child who has ever had to listen to some red neck fascist thug give them **** about the colour of their skin.

I also want to see him do it for people of colour right around the world. Maybe it will have an effect in somewhere like Britain - where we have less than a handful of politicians in the House of Commons who do not fit the description 'white' ... I want to see a black man there amongst the usual array of white Europeans when they gather in their hotels to talk about world poverty, because i want children who are dying of starvation in Ethiopia or being murdered in Somalia, or bombed in Pakistan to have some HOPE that there are better things to come.

For f..... sake - just for today, i'm going to allow myself to have some hope.
I've waited since 2003 to see an end to Bush - Hell, the whole damn world is waiting....

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mHCAWDirEHQ/SQo164PMMkI/AAAAAAAABAU/oLHKzuQKoKY/s400/Barack+Obama+2008.bmp

It's now 10:30 UK
I'll be back


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Endymion
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 01:46 am
Folks! This IS The Revolution
http://able2know.org/topic/81165-50#post-3022119

http://english.aljazeera.net/mritems/Images/2008/11/5/200811551831960621_2.jpg

"If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible, who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time, who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer.

It's the answer told by lines that stretched around schools and churches in numbers this nation has never seen, by people who waited three hours and four hours, many for the very first time in their lives, because they believed that this time must be different, that their voice could be that difference.

It's the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Latino, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled - Americans who sent a message to the world that we have never been a collection of Red States and Blue States: we are, and always will be, the United States of America."

complete victory speech
http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/uselections2008/2008/11/20081155744845501.html

Good Luck to America and The World

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/600/slide_600_12437_large.jpg

Good Riddance To George W Bush

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/47412/thumbs/s-BUSH-large.jpg
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/600/slide_600_12407_large.jpg

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/600/slide_600_12393_large.jpg
http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/AP_obama_smiles_vic39.jpg
msolga
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 01:57 am
@Endymion,
Quote:
Good Luck to America and The World



Good Riddance To George W Bush


Amen to that! Very Happy
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Endymion
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 03:26 am
why?
http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/530904
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Endymion
 
  1  
Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 03:34 am
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/11/04/patch460x276.jpg

http://able2know.org/topic/97334-5#post-3463011
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Endymion
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2008 06:18 pm
Zimbabwe is in terrible trouble. This African country which once fed itself, and exported food to its neighbours, as well as having one of the best health care records in Africa, is now on the verge of mass starvation. A cholera epidemic is raging out of control, and health professionals expect an equally deadly outbreak of malaria to follow soon.

The UN World Food Programme (WFP) estimates that 5.1 million Zimbabweans will need food aid by the end of the year.

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00092/9421710_92667t.jpg

The Independent's Christmas appealLink Here

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