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Minimum Wage: 'Whoever oppresses the poor taunts their maker,'"

 
 
Reply Thu 1 Aug, 2019 07:55 am
'Whoever oppresses the poor taunts their maker,'"

Buttigieg quoted this Bible verse with regards to opposition to raising minimum wage, but the same verse can be used to criticize the very existence of wage minimums.

How does it oppress the poor to set wage minimums? To answer that, ask yourself who can afford to hire poor people at higher wages. Hint: it's not other poor people.

Minimum wage, along with other costs of doing business, prevents poor people from hiring other poor people to work together to produce products, housing, food, etc. for themselves.

Poor people must then rely on business investors to front the costs of running businesses and hiring workers at minimum wage or higher, and as long as those investors decide to invest their money elsewhere, the poor just have to wait.

The Dems then want to use taxes to force people with money to invest it, or rather fund the government investing, and that's the definition of socialism, i.e. forced investment/spending.

So why not liberate the poor from wage minimums and other regulations/fees/etc. that set the cost of doing business above what they can afford? Let them invest their labor and ingenuity in producing value WITHOUT depending on moneyed investors/government to back them.

Or does Buttigieg really just want to raise minimum wage to prevent more people from affording to hire others, in order to favor richer businesses/investors who can and suppress competition that would drive their prices down to levels more affordable to the poor?
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Reply Thu 1 Aug, 2019 07:51 pm
Whoever oppresses the poor taunts their maker

If it means exactly the opposite then your biblical exegesis is without peer.

Matthew 13:13
: : : 13:13 Therefore I speak to them in parables: because they seeing
: : : see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand

: : : Jeremiah 5:21
: : : Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:

: : : Isaiah 6:9-10
: : : And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear you indeed, but understand not; and see indeed, but perceive not.
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Reply Fri 2 Aug, 2019 10:35 am
@nacredambition,
nacredambition wrote:

Whoever oppresses the poor taunts their maker

If it means exactly the opposite then your biblical exegesis is without peer.

Matthew 13:13
: : : 13:13 Therefore I speak to them in parables: because they seeing
: : : see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand

: : : Jeremiah 5:21
: : : Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:

: : : Isaiah 6:9-10
: : : And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear you indeed, but understand not; and see indeed, but perceive not.

What are you trying to say here?

What I'm pointing out is that minimum wage is an twisted way of prohibiting people from investing themselves in productive labor if they can't afford to pay wages at minimum rates.

The government/unions could just tell people they're not allowed to work for anyone else unless the employer is rich, but that would be classist, so they spin it by saying that anyone who pays below minimum wage is exploiting the poor.

The reality is that the poor should have the liberty to apply their labor to projects them deem worthy (regardless of pay level), provided they can take the responsiblity of not wasting resources, harming the environment, etc. (which is a tall order for a lot of people, unfortunately)
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