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Connecticut Yankee in Stalin's Court:Painting Ned Lamont Red

 
 
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BernardR
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 12:46 am
The article does not say that according to the last poll- Senator Lieberman is leading Lamont by 5 points!!!
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 10:40 am
So what your saying is the past of ones family has nothing to do with who a person is today? If that is so then Bush because of his grandfather and Arnold because of his father both are owed a big appology for being branded nazis because they had family that were and might have been involved with them.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 10:44 am
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Baldimo wrote:
So what your saying is the past of ones family has nothing to do with who a person is today? If that is so then Bush because of his grandfather and Arnold because of his father both are owed a big appology for being branded nazis because they had family that were and might have been involved with them.


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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 11:14 am
BernardR wrote:
The article does not say that according to the last poll- Senator Lieberman is leading Lamont by 5 points!!!

WTF does that mean in the scheme of things? I think it's sad that that's all you have. Besides, didn't you say it was 6 points earlier in another thread? Laughing

Connecticut had a closed primary. When Democrats who supported Joe realize that his campaign will be primarily bouyed by Republicans, they will most likely defect. When Connecticut Democrats realize that Republicans are kissing Lieberman's arse and bending over backwards to accomodate him, they will mostly likely defect.

Joe borrowed a page from Fox News and is obviously parroting the Karl Rove propogandist talking points brilliantly, as Cheney helped point out.

What a crock.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Fri 18 Aug, 2006 12:22 am
Don't they have newspapers in SanFrancisco?

Note NEW POLL--



Polling Results

August 17, 2006 - Lieberman Leads Among Likely Connecticut Voters, Quinnipiac University Poll FindS.

Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman, running as an independent, gets 53 percent of likely voters, with 41 percent for Democratic primary winner Ned Lamont and 4 percent for Republican Alan Schlesinger, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.


Among registered voters, Sen. Lieberman gets 49 percent, followed by Lamont with 38 percent and Schlesinger with 4 percent. This compares to a 51 - 27 percent Lieberman lead over Lamont, with 9 percent for Schlesinger in a July 20 poll by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University.


In this latest survey, Lieberman leads 75 - 13 - 10 percent among likely Republican voters, and 58 - 36 - 3 percent among likely independent voters, while likely Democratic voters back Lamont 63 - 35 percent. Two percent are undecided, but 28 percent of those who name a candidate might change their mind before Election Day.


"Sen. Lieberman's support among Republicans is nothing short of amazing. It more than offsets what he has lost among Democrats. As long as Lieberman maintains this kind of support among Republicans, while holding onto a significant number of Democratic votes, the veteran Senator will be hard to beat," said Quinnipiac University Poll Director Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D.


"Ned Lamont's Democratic primary win was based on a very small percentage of voters statewide. He must expand beyond this base if he is going to beat Lieberman."


Connecticut voters approve 55 - 40 percent of the job Lieberman is doing and likely voters give him a 46 - 30 percent favorability rating, with 23 percent mixed.


Lamont gets a negative 25 - 30 percent favorability rating among likely voters, with 19 percent mixed and 26 percent who haven't heard enough to form an opinion.


Likely voters say 53 - 40 percent that Lieberman deserves reelection. Among those who oppose his reelection, 24 percent cite his position on the war in Iraq.

a 51 - 27 percent Lieberman lead over Lamont, with 9 percent for Schlesinger in a July 20 poll by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University.


In this latest survey, Lieberman leads 75 - 13 - 10 percent among likely Republican voters, and 58 - 36 - 3 percent among likely independent voters, while likely Democratic voters back Lamont 63 - 35 percent. Two percent are undecided, but 28 percent of those who name a candidate might change their mind before Election Day.


"Sen. Lieberman's support among Republicans is nothing short of amazing. It more than offsets what he has lost among Democrats. As long as Lieberman maintains this kind of support among Republicans, while holding onto a significant number of Democratic votes, the veteran Senator will be hard to beat," said Quinnipiac University Poll Director Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D.


"Ned Lamont's Democratic primary win was based on a very small percentage of voters statewide. He must expand beyond this base if he is going to beat Lieberman."


Connecticut voters approve 55 - 40 percent of the job Lieberman is doing and likely voters give him a 46 - 30 percent favorability rating, with 23 percent mixed.


Lamont gets a negative 25 - 30 percent favorability rating among likely voters, with 19 percent mixed and 26 percent who haven't heard enough to form an opinion.


Likely voters say 53 - 40 percent that Lieberman deserves reelection. Among those who oppose his reelection, 24 percent cite his position on the war in Iraq.








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"Sen. Lieberman's support among Republicans is nothing short of amazing. It more than offsets what he has lost among Democrats. As long as Lieberman maintains this kind of support among Republicans, while holding onto a significant number of Democratic votes, the veteran Senator will be hard to beat," said Quinnipiac University Poll Director Douglas Schwartz
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BernardR
 
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Reply Fri 18 Aug, 2006 12:23 am
Baldimo- You must learn that you will never get a reply from BumbleBeeBoogie. You will only get a quote from a left wing source.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Fri 18 Aug, 2006 03:48 am
July 20: The three term Senator Joe Lieberman, if running as an independent, leads unknown challenger Ned Lamont by 24 percentage points, 51% to 27%.

August 17: Senator Joe Lieberman, running as an independent, leads Democratic victor Ned Lamont by only 12 points, with over two months to go before Election Day.

In a little over three weeks, Lieberman has lost both the Democratic nomination and 12 points of his 24 point lead over the previously unknown Ned Lamont. The wheels are coming off the Lieberman wagon even as we speak, yet some are trying to tell us his losses this week were really some sort of victory.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sat 19 Aug, 2006 03:00 am
Bumble Bee Boogie is trying to paint the right wing as McCarthyites?

Then, BumblebeeBoogie should look at posts made by one Pachelbel( no right winger he) on the ridiculous and long discredited rumors about President Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush and his alleged ties to his boss, Harriman,who hired a man who, at one time, was a contributor to Nazi Germany.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sat 19 Aug, 2006 07:12 am
Chris Mathews said that in an election like this, the newcomer almost always wins if he gets off quickly. So the strategy of Lieberman and Lieberman supporters is to deluge the media with the idea that Republicans, independents and Democrats are joining together to elect Lieberman.

In point of fact, Lieberman is putting together a pretty unstable coalition. For one thing, Lieberman got to the Senate by beating Lowell Weicker in a very close, hard fought campaign that was not noted for politeness. Weicker is precisely the kind of Senator that Lieberman now says he is-a nonpartisan maverick-and Lieberman got to the Senate by beating him. Incidentally, Weicker himself is now for Lamont.

Not to mention that Lieberman creamed the next two Republican nominees who opposed him. Not likely to engender warm feelings of acceptance.

Second, Lieberman said he is running as "an independent Democrat", and that he plans to caucus with the Democrats on Capitol Hill, same as always. In a year where all the attention is focused on whether the Democrats will retake both houses of Congress, that means Connecticut Republicans are expected to show up in large numbers to vote for a fellow who will vote for every Senate committee having a Democratic majority, and every Senate commmittee having a Democratic chairman. And he might well be the deciding vote to make it happen! Shaky.


With a highly unlikely coalition like this, Lieberman supporters figure the only way to be successful is to scare Republicans about how bad Lamont is supposed to be. Only if Republicans are in a state of absolute panic will they vote for Lieberman-hence this amazing, over-the-top editorial. Unless the Republicans are made to be sufficiently terrified of Lamont, Lieberman's coalition will fall apart.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sun 20 Aug, 2006 02:26 am
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sun 20 Aug, 2006 07:54 am
Isnt Waterbury the place that Lamont said was where "the forces of slime met the forces of evil"?

Somehow,I dont think he likes Waterbury,so why does the opinion of that paper matter?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060815/ap_on_el_se/connecticut_senate_1

Now,I know that some of you are going to say that Lamont didnt say it,and you are correct.

But,the campaign manager speaks for the campaign and the candidate.
That is what some of you constantly claim about Rove,that his words are the Presidents,so the same standard holds here.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sun 20 Aug, 2006 10:14 am
Here is a different article describing how the comment was made.

Quote:
He [campaign manager Tom Swan] said the comments were in the context of a broader discussion of state politics in which former Mayor Philip A. Giordano was the "slime" and former Gov. John G. Rowland was the "evil."


Former Governor Rowland, from Waterbury, was imprisoned for kickbacks. Former Waterbury Mayor Giordano is imprisoned for arranging to have sex with little girls.

In addition, former Mayor Santopietro was convicted of corruption, and another Mayor had legal difficulties.

Yep, the remark was impolitic, though apparently made off the record. A Lieberman supporter sent a letter to the current Mayor to alert him of it.

I'm sure the poeple of Wqterbury are well aware of the corruption in the city,and I wonder how much they actually mind those remarks. Nonetheless, it isn't the kind of remark you should make, Lamont apologized, and big deal.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sun 20 Aug, 2006 03:01 pm
BernardR wrote:
Last week, Vice President Dick Cheney called Ned Lamont's win in the Connecticut primary "disturbing"


Well, that news is certainly damaging to Lamont.

In a state where even the Republican representatives vote liberal about 50% of the time, (according to the American Conservative Union ratings), Darth Vader Cheney has come out strongly against Lamont.

That news is really, really going to hurt Lamont with Connecticut independents, who are more liberal than Connecticut Republicans, who vote liberal half the time.

Right now, Lieberman is leading Lamont among independents, largely because of name recognition. A few more pronouncements from Cheney, and Lamont should be on top in no time. Very Happy
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Mon 21 Aug, 2006 02:09 pm
It seems as though at this point in time, Lieberman has a sizable lead with several months left before November. Alot can change, and alot can happen between now and then.

It would seem as though Schlessinger is just another part of Karl Rove's master plan. And why not? One must sometimes see the forest through the trees to understand one's politica motives:

From Democraticunderground.com:

Quote:
Okay, I'm going to preface this by saying that I think this scenario is unlikely, and that it is pure speculation on my part. But while unlikely it is nonetheless a possible scenario so I thought I'd throw it out there for you to chew on.

Consider...

Joe Lieberman beats Ned Lamont and wins the Senate seat in Connecticut.

Early in 2007, Don Rumsfeld quits as Secretary of Defense.

George W. Bush offers the job to Lieberman, who accepts.

Connecticut's Gov. Jodi Rell (R) appoints a Republican to fill Joe's vacated Senate seat until 2008.

Result: George W. Bush gets a "bipartisan" Secretary of Defense, and the Republican party gets a free Senate seat in Connecticut - a seat which they didn't even contest in the 2006 elections.

Just a thought. Should I go get my tinfoil hat now?

I may just have to get mine, too. But this certainly plays into Rove's master universe.

The Lamont/Lieberman race effectively split the Democrats and emboldened Republicans in Connecticut who tend to hold more liberal views. And it comes as no surprise that Schlessinger is so upopular, with a whopping 4% of the vote thus far. How sad that his own party won't endorse him.

But will Connecticut as a whole support Lieberman? Will Republican funding of Lieberman's campaign and complete lack of support over his Republican opponent be enough to offer up this grand scenario?

Oh, those politicians are a crafty bunch...
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BernardR
 
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Reply Mon 21 Aug, 2006 02:31 pm
Read it and weep- Left wingers:


• Monday, August 14, 2006 | 2:30 p.m. ET
From Huma Zaidi and Kelly O'Donnell

GOP backing Lieberman?
Joe Lieberman's decision to stay in the Connecticut Senate race as an independent candidate guarantees that he won't receive much help from Democrats in Washington. But he isn't the only one in the contest who's failing to rally the Establishment behind him. Republicans at the highest levels -- the latest one being President Bush -- are refusing to endorse GOP nominee Alan Schlesinger.

At today's White House press briefing, spokesman Tony Snow was unwilling to state that Bush backed Schlesinger. All Snow would say is that the president "supports the democratic process in the state of Connecticut and wishes them a successful election in November." Further pressed by reporters for an answer, Snow said, "I think you know the situation in Connecticut." As we've mentioned before, Schlesinger has little chance of winning in November -- even in a three-way race -- and some Republicans are giddy that a Lieberman vs. Lamont rematch in November would split up the Democratic vote and could help the state's three endangered GOP congressmen.



Snow's refusal to say that Bush backs Schlesinger is the latest diss the GOP nominee has received. On Meet the Press yesterday, RNC chairman Ken Mehlman told David Gregory that he's been told to stay clear of this race. "The way I do it is to work with our leadership in the states, and what my leadership in the state has said to me is, 'You ought to stay out of this one. You ought to focus on the House races and focus on the governors' races.'" And on election day, Lieberman reportedly received a phone call from Karl Rove.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Mon 21 Aug, 2006 02:36 pm
Holy cow, I never thought of that!

Don't forget that Clinton's Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, was also a Republican so there is a nice precedent for this.

Suddenly, the mystery is lifted as to why the Republicans are working so hard to elect a candidate who has made it clear he will caucus with the Democrats. If he gets elected, he soon gets replaced with a full-bore Republican anyway.

Oh yes, it all seems so clear now.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Mon 21 Aug, 2006 02:46 pm
No, not as clear as you think--Keltic Wizened--If Lieberman wins(and he will) it will send a clear message that A NORTHEAST LIBERAL can still back the President's stance on the Iraq War and win in the NORTHEAST!!!
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BernardR
 
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Reply Mon 21 Aug, 2006 02:52 pm
And, of course, polls like this one just back up Lieberman's position on Iraq fully:


FROM RASMUSSEN REPORTS:


Foiled London Air Bomb Scheme:

Another Round in the War on Terror

35% Believe Another Attack in U.S. Within the Year "Very Likely"
August 18 , 2006
News of last week's foiled airline terror plot in London served as a stark reminder that the War on Terror continues in earnest. And that reminder certainly has captured the public's attention. Nearly half (45%) of all Americans say they followed the story of the Heathrow Airport plot very closely. Another 34% say they've been paying at least somewhat close attention. A mere handful (4%) report not following the story at all.

News of the elaborate terror plot-perhaps combined with the timing of the upcoming fifth anniversary of 9/11-seems to have pushed Americans' terrorism fears back to the surface. Thirty-five percent (35%) believe that another terror attack in the U.S. within the year is very likely. In sharp contrast, only 2% say an attack is very unlikely.

Forty-one percent (41%) of Americans believe current security screening procedures are "not strict enough." An equal percentage say the security measure are "about right." Only 10% say they are too strict
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Mon 21 Aug, 2006 03:06 pm
kelticwizard wrote:
Holy cow, I never thought of that!

Don't forget that Clinton's Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, was also a Republican so there is a nice precedent for this.

Suddenly, the mystery is lifted as to why the Republicans are working so hard to elect a candidate who has made it clear he will caucus with the Democrats. If he gets elected, he soon gets replaced with a full-bore Republican anyway.

Oh yes, it all seems so clear now.

If you read Joe's last paragraph on his front webpage, it becomes blatantly obvious that he'll take money from anybody:

Joementum wrote:
I hope you will join me in this cause, no matter your political persuasion, to secure a brighter future for our state and our country.

I'm tellin ya, that Karl Rove is a genius. Make no mistake.
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