Bush 'helped Israeli attack on Lebanon'

Was this before or after Hizbullah started raining rockets down on Israeli civilians for the past couple of years?

The thing about war plans is that there are tons of them on shelves in the Pentagon. That is what generals do, it is what they are paid to do. They make plans for war in case they are ever needed. I'm sure if you were allowed to look through the shelves you would find plans to attack Canada and even Mexico. Hell you might even find plans to attack the UK.

Coming to the US for help in planning an attack into the ME doesn't suprise me in the least. Who else has had experience in the last decade in doing so? That would be the US.

Have you even been in the military f4f?

Baldi, i'm disappointed that you watch Fox News.

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Bush 'helped Israeli attack on Lebanon'

Dan Glaister in Los Angeles
Monday August 14, 2006
The Guardian

The US government was closely involved in planning the Israeli campaign in Lebanon, even before Hizbullah seized two Israeli soldiers in a cross border raids in July. American and Israeli officials met in the spring, discussing plans on how to tackle Hizbullah, according to a report published yesterday.

The veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh writes in the current issue of the New Yorker magazine that Israeli government officials travelled to the US in May to share plans for attacking Hizbullah.

Quoting a US government consultant, Hersh said: "Earlier this summer ... several Israeli officials visited Washington, separately, 'to get a green light for the bombing operation and to find out how much the United States would bear'."

The Israeli action, current and former government officials told Hersh, chimed with the Bush administration's desire to reduce the threat of possible Hizbullah retaliation against Israel should the US launch a military strike against Iran.

"A successful Israeli Air Force bombing campaign ... could ease Israel's security concerns and also serve as a prelude to a potential American pre-emptive attack to destroy Iran's nuclear installations," sources told Hersh.

Yesterday Mr Hersh told CNN: "July was a pretext for a major offensive that had been in the works for a long time. Israel's attack was going to be a model for the attack they really want to do. They really want to go after Iran."

An unnamed Pentagon consultant told Hersh: "It was our intention to have Hizbullah diminished and now we have someone else doing it."

Officials from the state department and the Pentagon denied the report. A spokesman for the National Security Council told Hersh that "The Israeli government gave no official in Washington any reason to believe that Israel was planning to attack."

Hersh has a track record in breaking major stories. He was the first to write about the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and has written extensively about the build-up to the war in Iraq. He made his name when he uncovered the massacre at My Lai during the Vietnam war. Most recently he has written about US plans for Iran, alleging that US special forces had already been active inside the country.

Guardian Unlimited

"even before Hizbullah seized two Israeli soldiers"

so what?

f4f,
You avoided the question.

Have you ever been in the military?

NO, i have NOT been in the militery, what has that got to do with this topic ?

Anyway, i don't want to end up like you.

You did say, your right arm was blow up, riight ?

mysteryman, do you have problems masterbating ?

It has to do with the fact that you don't understand military planning. They don't just come up with these things on a moments notice. There have always been plans and there will always be plans. Just because they have them doesn't mean they are going to use them. This do have to be changed in them due to different things like troops strength, available hardware, weather and even new technolgies. Because you have never been in the military you don't have an understanding of this.

Not everyone who enters military service ends up hurt. You could go to work tomorrow and get in a car accident and loose an arm or a leg. There are more dangerious things out there then deployments. Been around a few mortar and rocket attacks the last few months and they don't even bother be any more.

Don't you think that is a little cruel and uncalled for? If he did have an arm gone is it nice to pick on those who have been hurt? Or does it bring you joy to pick on those who have problems you don't?

THE SCIENCE OF CREATING KILLERS
What exactly does it take to kill someone? Here's how 21-year-old West Texas Army Pvt. Steven Green described shooting a man who refused to stop at an Iraqi checkpoint: "It was like nothing. Over here, killing people is like squashing an ant. I mean, you kill somebody, and it's like, 'All right, let's go get some pizza,' " he told the military newspaper Stars & Stripes.

n February, the soldier's comments struck embedded correspondent Andrew Tilghman as unremarkable, a reflection of the fact that he and Green were immersed in the treacherous hellhole of Mahmoudiya, at the edge of what GIs have dubbed the Triangle of Death. Green's statements didn't even make it into the Stars & Stripes article, which ran earlier this year.

It was only recently -- when the honorably discharged soldier appeared in federal court pleading not guilty to the rape of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and the cold-blooded murder of her family -- that Tilghman recalled the quotes with a newfound chill...

sfgate

Sean Hannity, Pouting Over Middle East Cease-Fire: “One Nuke And It Was All Over” http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/August2006/150806Hannity.htm

mysteryman wrote:

f4f,
You avoided the question.

Have you ever been in the military?

NO, i have NOT been in the militery, what has that got to do with this topic ?

Anyway, i don't want to end up like you.

You did say, your right arm was blow up, riight ?

mysteryman, do you have problems masterbating ?