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George W. Bush Q.I

 
 
Reply Sat 12 Aug, 2006 02:11 pm
Here are the actual numbers!

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"The intelligence of our presidents has never been seriously scrutinized at any time in our history until now. There is a widespread perception that President G. W. Bush is not qualified for the position he holds. That increasing awareness by the people has led to a study of the intellectual ability of all presidents for the past fifty years. There have been twelve presidents in that time, from F. D. Roosevelt to G. W. Bush. All were rated based on scholarly achievements, writings that they alone wrote,their ability to speak effectively, and a number of psychological factors. The conclusions of the study, conducted by an independent think tank located in Scranton, Pennsylvania were surprising. This think tank includes high caliber historians, psychiatrists, sociologists, scientists in human behavior, and psychologists. Among their ranks are Dr. Werner Levenstein, world-renowned sociologist, and Professor Patricia A. Williams, a world-respected psychiatrist. All members of the think tank are experts at being able to detect a person's IQ from the criteria stated earlier. After four months of research, these learned men and women have determined the IQs of each president within a range of five percentage points. The IQs listed below are the norms for each president.


147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D) 132 Harry Truman (D) 122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R) 174 John F. Kennedy (D) 126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D) 155 Richard M. Nixon (R) 121 Gerald Ford (R) 175 James E. Carter (D) 105 Ronald Reagan (R) 099 George HW Bush (R) 182 William J. Clinton (D) 091 George W. Bush (R)


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The non-partisan researchers who evaluated the twelve presidents determined that the six Republican presidents for the past 50 years had an average IQ of 115.5, with President Nixon having the highest IQ, at 155. President G. W. Bush was rated the lowest of all the Republicans with an IQ of 91. The six Democrat presidents had IQs with an average of 156, with President Clinton having the highest IQ, at 182. President Lyndon B. Johnson was rated the lowest of all the Democrats with an IQ of 126. The margin of error is plus or minus five percent. This study was initiated on February 13, 2001 and completed on June 17, 2001. This study validated the widespread feeling of people about the sitting president. President Bush was rated low because of his inability to command the English language, his lack of any scholarly achievements, and an absence of anything authored by him that would reflect an intellectual effort." --"Jennifer Borenstein, Baskerville News Service, 6/28/01"


Another interesting fact:

Out of the past 12 presidents polled, the average I.Q. for a Democrat is 156 and the average I.Q. for a Republican is 115.5. That is a difference of about 40 I.Q. points. Now I am not making any general statements but. . . LOOK AT THE NUMBERS!
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sat 12 Aug, 2006 02:29 pm
From www.snopes.com a site dedicated to exposing hoaxes and urban legends:

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Origins: No,
this isn't a real news report, nor does it describe a real study. There isn't a "Lovenstein Institute" in Scranton, Pennsylvania (or anywhere else in the USA), nor do any of the people quoted in the story exist, because this is just another spoof that was taken too seriously.

The article quoted above began circulating on the Internet during the summer of 2001. In furtherance of the hoax, later that year pranksters thought to register www.lovenstein.org and erect a web site around it in an attempt to fool people into thinking there really was such an institute.

The piece is simply a political jibe, made obvious by its ranking all the Democratic presidents of the last several decades as having high (even exceptionally high) IQs (note that Bill Clinton's IQ is listed as being exactly twice George W. Bush's) while ranking all the Republican presidents from the same time frame as average to moderate in intelligence, with the current president and his father assigned below-average figures placing them at the very bottom of the list. (President Nixon is the sole exception, presumably because his reputation is still so tarnished that not even a high IQ measurement can yet redeem him in the court of public opinion.)

[Some noticeable errors: Although the study includes Franklin D. Roosevelt, who died in office in 1945, the report is described as covering presidents in office "over the past 50 years." Also not true is the claim that "all the Presidents prior to George W. Bush had a least one book under their belt" ?- some of them authored no books until after becoming president, and George W. Bush did have a book to his credit before being elected president, 1999's A Charge to Keep. Plus, if there's a "Swanson/Crain" system for ranking intelligence, nobody else seems to have heard of it.]

In any case, IQ is a dodgy enough concept even when measured by tests designed for the purpose ?- trying to guess not just relative rankings but specific IQ scores based solely on writings and speeches is bound to be error-prone. Based on President George H.W. Bush's extemporaneous speech-making, for example, he couldn't "speak with clarity" to save his life, but he was clearly far more intelligent than the insultingly low IQ assigned to him above. And a recent article reports President Kennedy's IQ as 119, far below the genius-level 174 ascribed to him here.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Sat 12 Aug, 2006 02:56 pm
Noddy24

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this isn't a real news report, nor does it describe a real study...


Thanks for that bit of information Noddy.

We don't need an article to tell us he's not dumb. I would rather judge his speeches and actions.

Just look at him. Laughing

http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Bush-%20Dumb%20Look%20Scratching%20Head.jpg

Oh and read some of his quotes.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 12 Aug, 2006 02:59 pm
freedom4free wrote:
Noddy24

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this isn't a real news report, nor does it describe a real study...


Thanks for that bit of information Noddy.

We don't need an article to tell us he's not dumb. I would rather judge his speeches and actions.

Just look at him. Laughing
....

Oh and read some of his quotes.

Thanks for presenting another false citation. BTW, Since GW Bush has degrees from Yale and Harvard, has made himself wealthy or wealthier, and was elected president twice, what does that say about your level of intelligence?
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Sat 12 Aug, 2006 03:13 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
freedom4free wrote:
Noddy24

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this isn't a real news report, nor does it describe a real study...


Thanks for that bit of information Noddy.

We don't need an article to tell us he's not dumb. I would rather judge his speeches and actions.

Just look at him. Laughing
....

Oh and read some of his quotes.

Thanks for presenting another false citation. BTW, Since GW Bush has degrees from Yale and Harvard, has made himself wealthy or wealthier, and was elected president twice, what does that say about your level of intelligence?


Right now, i can buy a degree from Yale or Harvard from an on-line store, what does that tell you ?

His father helped him become wealthy, Bush junior was/is a junkie.

Election was stolen : http://www.impeachbush.tv/el2000/
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