Should Israel become the 51st State of the USA?

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What if Israel became the 51st State of the USA?

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...what Israel has discovered over the past 60 years is that the Arabs are an implacable enemy and seem far more ferociously dedicated to Israel's eventual destruction than the Jews are to Israel's survival. Just look at Arab gains and Israeli losses in the past decade alone. Israel allowed themselves to be pressured into the disastrous Oslo agreements. How Israel will survive an army of Palestinian militants that are directly on their border--especially with their hands tied by the international community--is anyone's guess. Let's call a spade a spade. The Arabs will only ever be satisfied when Israel is pushed into the sea, and without an American green light to get rid of the Palestinian terrorocracy, we cannot be entirely sure that there will even be an Israel, G-d forbid, in a decade. That is, unless it becomes an American state.

Besides, Jews and Judaism have thrived in the United States as never before. There are more Jews in the U.S. than in Israel, six million to four million. Israelis, too, love all things American. And Israel is just as close to Washington, D.C. as Hawaii--about ten hours by plane

There are undoubtedly countless pros and cons here and unbreakable barriers to it ever happening but assuming it came down to a yes / no vote, how would you vote?

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I voted yes. Since it already is.

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Yes. All that's left is the paperwork.

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Would we make them accept English as their official language?

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Try ANOTHER proposal
There are more of many ethnic groups in North America than in many homelands. Perhaps We should make Armenia a 51st state, too?!

I resent your insinuation. Why not be even more creative?

If you are sincerely interested in well-being of the area, why not propose moving the Palestinains somewhere further from Israel, which WILL, despite your acceptance of the fact, stay right where it IS forever.

Why not propose moving Palestinian's homeland to be somewhere ELSE in the Middle Wast, suitably away from Israel? Why not have their Arab brother open the borders to their presence. Answer: 'cause not one of their Arab brothers WANT them there, either!

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I guess my response was a little glib. I feel we could tack Britain on as well. Close allies, and all. No offense intended, on my part.

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Re: Try ANOTHER proposal

ragman(orig) wrote:

There are more of many ethnic groups in North America than in many homelands. Perhaps We should make Armenia a 51st state, too?!

I resent your insinuation. Why not be even more creative?

If you are sincerely interested in well-being of the area, why not propose moving the Palestinains somewhere further from Israel, which WILL, despite your acceptance of the fact, stay right where it IS forever.

Why not propose moving Palestinian's homeland to be somewhere ELSE in the Middle Wast, suitably away from Israel? Why not have their Arab brother open the borders to their presence. Answer: 'cause not one of their Arab brothers WANT them there, either!

You're way off topic, why don't you create your own threads/polls ?
some people might even think you were trolling...

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off topic?
I don't agree with your statement that I'm off topic! Hardly! You may not like my answer, but it's not off topic.

My answer to your question "Should Israel Become the 51st State" is no.

My rebuttal and proposal followed! that's the way this forum works, right?

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Amigo wrote:

I voted yes. Since it already is.

That is true. Israel is the only country who has the privilege to be both a state of the USA and a member of the EU Smile

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Re: off topic?

ragman(orig) wrote:

I don't agree with your statement that I'm off topic! Hardly! You may not like my answer, but it's not off topic.

My answer to your question "Should Israel Become the 51st State" is no.

My rebuttal and proposal followed! that's the way this forum works, right?

Thats not what you did, you first made a proposal and then answered my question (after editing your second post) - will you admit that i caught you lying ? Laughing

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lying?
Yes, I edited my post. That's what I do before I'm done with my thoughts. Is that a bad thing?

Why resort to ad hominem attacks Isn't that trolling?

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Re: lying?

ragman(orig) wrote:

Yes, I edited my post. That's what I do before I'm done with my thoughts. Is that a bad thing?

Why resort to ad hominem attacks Isn't that trolling?

You didn't answer my question again, ok, let me try again :

Did you make a proposal first then answer my thread question - or did you answer the question first then make a proposal (as you said) .

It's an easy one... :wink:

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edited
what is the difference how I edited prior to my final edit? Pretty nitpicky.

Cripes

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Re: edited

ragman(orig) wrote:

what is the difference how I edited prior to my final edit? Pretty nitpicky.

Cripes

3rd time lucky, maybe. I'll make it really simple.

Note : i'm not using the word ' edit '

Did you :

1) Answer the Question then Proposal ?

or

2) Proposal then Answer the Question ?

Maybe even simpler.

1) Question then Proposal. ?

or

2) Proposal then Question. ?

Simplest : Q = question - P = Proposal

1) Q then P ?

2) P then Q ?

Smile

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52nd. state.... you've forgotten Iraq....

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Clearly Israel can't become the 51st state - Australia already is.

eg Israel fairly regularly defies US wishes (eg the road map). Australia, under John Howards 'Liberals' never does (eg Australia is the only western nation not to negotiate for release of its citizens held in Guantanamo).