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Wed 19 Jul, 2006 05:41 pm
Hillary versus Condi?
Ain't nuthin' new about that possible lineup. I don't think it'll actually going to happen, but it's been seriously talked about for some time now. The thing is, if the Dems nominate Hillary, Condi would be the logical choice to oppose her. Otherwise the GOP will lose the entire women's vote bloc. And the Rice woman would actually be a smart pick because of the race angle. How many people are going to remember that she has been largely just Dubya's mouthpiece?
Merry Andrew wrote:Ain't nuthin' new about that possible lineup. I don't think it'll actually going to happen, but it's been seriously talked about for some time now. The thing is, if the Dems nominate Hillary, Condi would be the logical choice to oppose her. Otherwise the GOP will lose the entire women's vote bloc. And the Rice woman would actually be a smart pick because of the race angle. How many people are going to remember that she has been largely just Dubya's mouthpiece?
I post on a local site.... very conservative...to the right of Pat Robertson... man you can't believe the flack I got for making this post......mysogynist...racist..... yee haw!!!! Good times....as though any of these local rednecks could choose between Hillary and a black woman without having a stroke from the stress......
Bear wrote:
I post on a local site.... very conservative...to the right of Pat Robertson.
That is a great friggin' idea. Where might I find such a site? I would go there strictily for my personal edification, of course, and would never consider stirring the pot.
gustavratzenhofer wrote:Bear wrote:
I post on a local site.... very conservative...to the right of Pat Robertson.
That is a great friggin' idea. Where might I find such a site? I would go there strictily for my personal edification, of course, and would never consider stirring the pot.
I sort of stumbled on it accidentally.... it is a site where people from a Raleigh bedroom community which up until recently was just farms and stills live.... posting there is a hoot... a cross between swap shop and Rush Limbaugh worship..... there are about 4 "stinking Saddams Poodle, America hating, terrosit loving, godless liberals" including myself there.... it's pretty hilarious.... think some of our gun loving conservatives but not as urbane or witty....there are actually some very nice people there... but a large crop of rightwing nuts to play with.
I will be searching for such a site, Bear, and when I find one you be be the first one on my invitation list to participate in the frivolity.
If this club ain't exclusive, count me in, too, Gus. Please.
If that fool wouldn't have written a book by that title; I don't think there would be any discussion about it at all.
Merry Andrew wrote:Ain't nuthin' new about that possible lineup. I don't think it'll actually going to happen, but it's been seriously talked about for some time now. The thing is, if the Dems nominate Hillary, Condi would be the logical choice to oppose her. Otherwise the GOP will lose the entire women's vote bloc. And the Rice woman would actually be a smart pick because of the race angle. How many people are going to remember that she has been largely just Dubya's mouthpiece?
I neither believe that the GOP would lose the entire women's vote bloc, nor that there's too many Republican's that would be easier for Hillary to defeat. Everyone will remember she's largely just Dubya's mouthpiece.
Biden Vs. Giuliani is more likely.
I think Bill has the ticket, unless some dark horse emerges.
No Republican woman would vote for Hillary Clinton.
Joltin Joe may have a shot. Rudy is already the one to beat, IMO.
I hope you speak of Bill Frist, Lash. That would be most excellent humor.
Mitt Romney, GOP gov. of MA, is a serious contender.
Lash wrote:I think Bill has the ticket, unless some dark horse emerges.
No Republican woman would vote for Hillary Clinton.
Joltin Joe may have a shot. Rudy is already the one to beat, IMO.
I'm sure you could find a handful of republican women who would vote for Hillary. Probably a few that swallow as well.
If Hillary would have swallowed, Bill wouldn't have had to go find that fat beret girl.
O'Bill, Gus.
There are several Democrat women who wouldn't vote for Hillary. Seriously. Women don't cross over for gender over ideology, planks and stuff that matters.
Although, damn them, they will vote "cute" sometimes.
Lash wrote:If Hillary would have swallowed, Bill wouldn't have had to go find that fat beret girl.
O'Bill, Gus.
There are several Democrat women who wouldn't vote for Hillary. Seriously. Women don't cross over for gender over ideology, planks and stuff that matters.
Although, damn them, they will vote "cute" sometimes.
sorry lash but there's not a man in the world that would pass up a blow job from a cute little chuuber with big tits and DSL's. It's just the way we're wired.
People have different standards.
She's not making it with the upper 27.5% of guys.
Lash wrote:People have different standards.
She's not making it with the upper 27.5% of guys.
and I thought you knew a little.....
So, this recent, excellent article could be titled--
Women Really Don't Like Hillary, and btw, Carville is a shill.?
Carville and Kuttner assume that Hillary Clinton's candidacy will gain the support of women because she descriptively represents women. Descriptive representation, as Hannah Pitkin noted in 1967, is the sense in which a politician represents a class of citizens because he or she resembles themThese are empirical questions, and Carville and Kuttner aren't being empirical when they make their claimsIn conclusion, if James Carville really means what he says about the importance of a "woman's candidate," he should support a White House run by Barack Obama, not Hillary Clinton. If Carville didn't really mean what he said, and is just shilling for a political patron, then he shouldn't be believed or even paid attention to. Instead of supposition, we should pay attention to empirical information when thinking about the 2008 candidates and the 2008 election.
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Just something I found re Hill and the chicks.