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Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld axis, Iran, and US foreign policy

 
 
sumac
 
Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 12:02 pm
http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/060710fa_fact

Seymour Hersch

Read it as a basis for starting a discussion.
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Kara
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 06:23 pm
I read this piece yesterday. One must read the whole thing, but here is a sample from partway through:

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In 1986, Congress authorized the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to act as the "principal military adviser" to the President. In this case, I was told, the current chairman, Marine General Peter Pace, has gone further in his advice to the White House by addressing the consequences of an attack on Iran. "Here's the military telling the President what he can't do politically"?-raising concerns about rising oil prices, for example?-the former senior intelligence official said. "The J.C.S. chairman going to the President with an economic argument?-what's going on here?" (General Pace and the White House declined to comment. The Defense Department responded to a detailed request for comment by saying that the Administration was "working diligently" on a diplomatic solution and that it could not comment on classified matters.)

A retired four-star general, who ran a major command, said, "The system is starting to sense the end of the road, and they don't want to be condemned by history. They want to be able to say, ?'We stood up.' "

The military leadership is also raising tactical arguments against the proposal for bombing Iran, many of which are related to the consequences for Iraq. According to retired Army Major General William Nash, who was commanding general of the First Armored Division, served in Iraq and Bosnia, and worked for the United Nations in Kosovo, attacking Iran would heighten the risks to American and coalition forces inside Iraq. "What if one hundred thousand Iranian volunteers came across the border?" Nash asked. "If we bomb Iran, they cannot retaliate militarily by air?-only on the ground or by sea, and only in Iraq or the Gulf. A military planner cannot discount that possibility, and he cannot make an ideological assumption that the Iranians wouldn't do it. We're not talking about victory or defeat?-only about what damage Iran could do to our interests." Nash, now a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, said, "Their first possible response would be to send forces into Iraq. And, since the Iraqi Army has limited capacity, it means that the coalition forces would have to engage them."

The Americans serving as advisers to the Iraqi police and military may be at special risk, Nash added, since an American bombing "would be seen not only as an attack on Shiites but as an attack on all Muslims. Throughout the Middle East, it would likely be seen as another example of American imperialism. It would probably cause the war to spread."
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sumac
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 06:30 pm
It does appear that the military is flexing its' muscles in a tad more independent manner, particularly in light of the military's authoritarian organizational structure.

And it appears that they are all talking with one another. Retired with active, active with active. This has to be a good thing.

Hersch appears to have the confidence of a great many of inside, informed people. I hung on every word of the "Pentagon consultant" or "government consultant with ties to Pentagon civilian officers".

I do hope that a lot of people read the piece.

It also highlights how the Bush administration has changed its tune from a go it alone if necessary, cowboy (or outlaw?) approach, to more of a team member prepared to compromise. Better late than never, I suppose.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 07:35 am
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revel
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 10:59 am
I gather they had to give in about using nukes and they say that they will go to negotiations with China and Russia but not unless Iran stops all uranium enrichment activities first, in other words Iran conceding the negotiations before they start the negotiations. Typical, I hope everything else don't go as typical or else the administration will ignore the saner heads and go ahead and bomb Iran and then Iran will come over the border into Iraq and Afghanistan. Chances are we won't even know where they are anyway.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 05:33 am
Hi Sumac

That was a very interesting article by Hersch, thanks for posting it.

It doesnt fill one with confidence though, especially in the light of what's going on in Lebanon.

We see the same tactic employed everytime when a military strike is planned.

Make an offer of talks that you know will be rejected. How ridiculous to make conditions about Iran's nuclear fuel cycle, when that was the main subject of negotiations.

He did the same with Saddam. Saddam had to "prove" that he didnt have[/i] any wmd. Not every one is dumb enough to fall for that. Its not possible to prove a negative.

The Israelis wont consider prisoner exchange...or rather they will providing it comprises Hezbollah returning their soldiers, and Israel not returning any of the Palestinians and others they hold.

The casual observer might think these positions quite reasonable, expecially when given the usual media gloss.
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