SAUDI ARABIA BOMBED THE TOWERS

I wonder why they are almost all Saudis.

The taliban was always made up of mostly non Afghans, but it was based there. They moved into the void after the war with the Russians ended.

So they are mostly Saudi because the Taliban is mostly Saudi and the hijackers are in the Taliban?

I thought it was Bush who blew up the towers?

This is not true. The Taliban was an indigenous Afghan movement, mass-movement even, that took power by winning over one province after another of the then-wartorn country.

What is true is that once in power, the Taliban offered foreign extremists a refuge, hoping that their greater experience would buttress its power. Unlike the Taliban itself, which initially enjoyed widespread enough popular support, these foreign fighters were never liked. Al-Qaeda was there too, and the Al-Qaeda people in Afghanistan were mostly foreign.

It's been my understanding that it was mainly made up of Saudis, Pakistanis and Chechans. I may be wrong. It's not an area that I've got a great deal of knowledge about.

Who knows. But one thing is for sure, the official story is bullshit.

Why the hell did we attack Iraq????

I don't know about the information on this website but here are some pictures of the hijackers.

http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

The shrub spent a year firing up the American people to go into Iraq and rid Saddam of his weapons of mass destruction. When they didn't materialise, the war morphed into a war on terror.

Oh yea, WMD, I forgot.

Why did we really attack Iraq? Why did they create a senario to attack Iraq?

People have got their theories. Some are more fantastic than others, some are more believable than others, some may be right, all may be right, none may be right. I don't think we'll ever find out the truth.

I guess your right. We can however rule out WMD's.

Actually, now that I think of it the reasons for attacking Iraq are outlined in the PNAC.

The WMD thing was to manufacture concent.
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"Indeed, the United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

-Project for the New American Century (PNAC), Rebuilding America's Defenses, page 14

http://www.sundayherald.com/27735

A SECRET blueprint for US global domination reveals that President Bush and his cabinet were planning a premeditated attack on Iraq to secure 'regime change' even before he took power in January 2001.
The blueprint, uncovered by the Sunday Herald, for the creation of a 'global Pax Americana' was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice- president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), George W Bush's younger brother Jeb and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences: Strategies, Forces And Resources For A New Century, was written in September 2000 by the neo-conservative think-tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

Published on Monday, December 16, 2002 by CommonDreams.org
If You're Happy And You Know It Bomb Iraq
by John Robbins


If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.
If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq.
If the terrorists are Saudi,
And your alibi is shoddy,
And your tastes remain quite gaudy,
Bomb Iraq.

If you never were elected, bomb Iraq.
If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq.
If you think that SUVs,
Are the best thing since sliced cheese,
And your father you must please,
Bomb Iraq.

If the globe is quickly warming, bomb Iraq.
If the poor will soon be storming, bomb Iraq.
We assert that might makes right,
Burning oil is a delight,
For the empire we will fight,
Bomb Iraq.

If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq.
If we think that someone's dissed us, bomb Iraq.
So to hell with the inspections,
Let's look tough for the elections,
Close your mind and take directions,
Bomb Iraq.

If corporate fraud is growin', bomb Iraq.
If your ties to it are showin', bomb Iraq.
If your politics are sleazy,
And hiding that ain't easy,
And your manhood's getting queasy,
Bomb Iraq.

Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq.
For our might now knows no borders, bomb Iraq.
Disagree? We'll call it treason,
It's the make war not love season,
Even if we have no reason,
Bomb Iraq.

Taliban and Iraq
Invading a country (Iraq) with no provocation makes Bush and Co. war criminals. Simple. They should be held in Gitmo.

The Taliban and Saddam were supported militarily initially by Reagan and Bush, Sr. in the 1980's. This is not merely my opinion, it is a fact and can be checked out on the web via various sources.

PNAC has an agenda, amigo, you are correct. The interesting thing is that the propaganda machine got so many Americans believing it was Iraq, and if anyone yells about the discrepancies in the facts, they are called traitors. Or they disappear. So much for democracy in the U.S.

Under the false claims of terrorism U.S. citizens are losing rights to privacy.

There are many other countries with human rights violations - we'll leave the US out of that for the moment but they certainly qualify - such as Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc., they aren't exactly democratic or sensitive to women's rights.

The attack on Iraq is simply to grab their oil and secure the area for a pipeline to the Caspian Sea.

Read PNAC's agenda and you'll understand the big lie that Bush and Co. are.