Well. The politics threads may pick up. NK launches...

Al Greenwood?????? Maybe mixing Al Gore and Lee Greenwood? Naaah, couldn't be...they're on opposite ends of the patriotic spectrum.

Thanks Bubba, Thanks Jimmy!

"The leftist media spin is that the current crisis in North Asia is the result of George W. Bush calling Pyongyang a member of the 'axis of evil.' In reality, the soft-line appeasement policy taken by Clinton against North Korea and China is what has led us to this point.

For example, former Clinton adviser Paul Begala, now serving as a talking head on CNN, claimed that the Clinton administration contained the threat from North Korea. Clearly, Mr. Begala missed the 1990s.

Of course, Mr. Begala simply forgot that Clinton's military chief of staff testified in 1998 that North Korea did not have an active ballistic missile program. One week later the North Koreans launched a missile over Japan that landed off the Alaska coast.

During the early Clinton years, hard-liners and so-called conservative hawks advocated a pre-emptive strike to halt North Korea's nuclear weapons development before it could field an atomic bomb. Instead of taking the hard line, President Clinton elected to rely on former President Jimmy Carter and decided to appease the Marxist-Stalinist dictatorship.

Carter met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-il in Pyongyang and returned to America waving a piece of paper and declaring peace in our time. Kim, according to Carter, had agreed to stop his nuclear weapons development.

The Clinton appeasement program for North Korea included hundreds of millions of dollars in aid, food, oil and even a nuclear reactor. However, the agreement was flawed and lacked even the most informal means of verification.

In return, Kim elected to starve his people while using the American aid to build uranium bombs. The lowest estimate is that Kim starved to death over 1 million of his own people, even with the U.S. aid program."


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/1/7/164846.shtml

Conceding the point that the Clinton Administration may have misplayed the NK nuclear thing which may or may not have led to this current event because I am ignorant about the issue; hasn't Bush been the President now for five years?

revel wrote:

Conceding the point that the Clinton Administration may have misplayed the NK nuclear thing which may or may not have led to this current event because I am ignorant about the issue; hasn't Bush been the President now for five years?

He has, and I would agree he's done terrible in this theatre, but the game went from conventional to Nuclear while Clinton was asleep at the wheel.

Further, while the article states "The lowest estimate is that Kim starved to death over 1 million of his own people, even with the U.S. aid program", it's being generous. The global food effort has consistently provided enough food-aid for every North Korean, but some estimates have the starving and/or murdered # closer to 10 million people (Kim likes to sell the food on the black market to buy more guns, instead of feeding people... he, if anyone, is truly a monster). Keep in mind the The C.I.A.'s world fact book estimates a total population of only 23,113,019 which many fear is grossly exaggerated by Kim to deny the truth.

So I'm guessing the right wingnuts think DROK is the enemy de jure, the foe focus group, the new red scare, the atomic mushroom cloud, the million man army and general hobgoblin who hates america. The thing is, most rational americans think China is the real threat, and the threat is economic as well as military.

Them rocekts are rice burners, run out of fuel in one hour.