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Murtha says U.S. poses top threat to world peace

 
 
Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 04:36 pm
Murtha says U.S. poses top threat to world peace
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 06.25.2006


MIAMI — American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said to an audience of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon.
Murtha was the guest speaker at a town hall meeting organized by Rep. Kendrick B. Meek, D-Miami, at Florida International University's Biscayne Bay Campus. Meek's mother, former Rep. Carrie Meek, D-Miami, was also on the panel.
War veterans, local mayors, university students and faculty were in the Mary Ann Wolfe Theatre to listen to the three panelists discuss the war in Iraq for an hour.
A former Marine and a prominent critic of the Bush administration's policies in Iraq, Murtha reiterated his views that the war cannot be won militarily and needs political solutions. He said the more than 100,000 troops in Iraq should be pulled out immediately, and deployed to peripheral countries like Kuwait.
"We do not want permanent bases in Iraq," Murtha told the audience. "We want as many Americans out of there as possible."
Murtha also has publicly said that the shooting of 24 Iraqis in November at Haditha, a city in the Anbar province of western Iraq that has been plagued by insurgents, was wrongfully covered up.
The killings, which sparked an investigation into the deadly encounter and another into whether they were the subject of a cover-up, could undermine U.S. efforts in Iraq more than the prison abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib in 2004, Murtha said.
"(The United States) became the target when Abu Ghraib came along," Murtha said.

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Amigo
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2006 04:16 am
The Bush people are attacking this guy all over the place. There saying it's anti-American.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2006 06:33 am
Murtha is a grandstanding baboon. No wonder the left is so enthralled with him.
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revel
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2006 08:22 am
Why not discuss the merits of Murtha's statements rather than making baseless commentary as usual?
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paull
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2006 09:35 am
Why can't they shut him up? Politics are going to the dogs because the Democrats have NO one of quality speaking for them. The current crew of Dem leaders, Murtha, Dean, Pelosi and Reid make moonbats like Kucinich look relatively benign, and guys like Obama, who has no credentials other than his race, like potential saviors.




"Mr. Murtha has been sticking his foot in his mouth a lot lately. He accused Marines in Iraq of murdering civilians "in cold blood," contradicted himself in the same breath by saying they had "overreacted," and asserted that higher-ups covered up the purported crime without backing his statements up. He told a startled Tim Russert of NBC that U.S. troops withdrawn from Iraq could be "redeployed" to Okinawa, Japan, whence they could return "very quickly" to Baghdad--which is 4,899 miles away. And more than once he has offered these examples of presidential leadership: "In Beirut, President Reagan changed direction. In Somalia, President Clinton changed direction."

Here's another take on the change of direction in Somalia: "After a few blows . . . [the U.S.] rushed out of Somalia in shame and disgrace, dragging the bodies of its soldiers." That was Osama bin Laden, in an ABC interview in 1998, the same year al Qaeda blew up the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, murdering more than 220. Two years later he struck at the U.S.S Cole off Yemen and killed 17 sailors. The next year his suicide bombers hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and killed more than 3,000 Americans.

"Mr. Murtha sounds less like a Marine colonel these days, and more like a male Cindy Sheehan," writes Jack Kelly of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, which circulates in Mr. Murtha's district. But all the adulation from left-wing bloggers has apparently convinced the 74-year-old Mr. Murtha that he has a shot at higher office. "The more he gets out there, the more he realizes that he truly has taken on a leadership role," a Murtha aide told Time magazine. This month he told his colleagues that he plans to run for majority leader, the No. 2 job in the House, if Democrats take control this November. It is assumed he would have the tacit or open support of many close allies of the current minority leader, Nancy Pelosi, who won a leadership post in 2001 in large part because Mr. Murtha was her campaign manager and convinced some moderates she was not an antimilitary left-winger.

If Jack Murtha, a backroom operator who is blunder-prone when speaking publicly, is Democrats' idea of fresh leadership, the party is in real trouble. Far from advancing the Democratic argument that Republicans have bred a "culture of corruption" while in power, Mr. Murtha's leadership bid would open a Pandora's box of questions about his own record.

In 1980, prosecutors named Mr. Murtha an "unindicted co-conspirator" in the Abscam scandal. The FBI captured him on tape saying he wasn't interested in taking a $50,000 payment from agents posing as Arab sheiks "at this point," but he was open to further discussions. The House Ethics Committee cleared him, but E. Barrett Prettyman, the committee's special counsel for the Abscam probe, questioned the panel's competence, likening it to "a misdemeanor court faced with a multiple murder." Mr. Prettyman abruptly resigned his post the same afternoon the committee voted to clear Mr. Murtha. While Mr. Prettyman continues to refuse to discuss the case, he told Roll Call newspaper in 1990 that it would be "a logical conclusion" that he resigned over the committee's exoneration of Mr. Murtha."


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revel
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2006 11:17 am
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In the probe of what became known as the Abscam bribery scandal, Murtha was the only congressman involved in the complex case to emerge without facing criminal charges. He declared he was innocent, saying he had "met with two men who I believed had a substantial line of credit that could provide up to 1,000 jobs for the district. I broke no law. I took no money." A grand jury and the House ethics panel cleared Murtha of any wrongdoing.


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Republican Attack Machine Continues to Target Veterans

The Republican leadership makes themselves out to be very supportive of the troops and of vets. They belittle Democrats for being unpatriotic and unsupportive of the military. Unfortunately, the GOP is only on the side of the military if they keep their mouth shut. Anyone who dares speak out against the war or against neo-conservatives gets a taste of the Republican attack dogs.

This despicable campaign targets anyone who stands against them. It started with John McCain, a decorated veteran and POW who ran for President in 2000. After McCain won the New Hampshire primary, George Bush, Karl Rove, and their people launched a smear campaign against McCain, accusing him of fathering an illegitimate black baby, questioning his war record, and telling voters he was not sane. After that vilification, McCain lost the next primary and Bush went on to win the nomination and presidency.

Two years later, the same attack machine went after Max Cleeland, a decorated war veteran who served his country admirably in Vietnam and elsewhere. As a result of malicious and false personal attacks by the GOP, Cleland lost his Senate seat to the Republican challenger.

In 2004, the machine was back at it again, attacking the war record of John Kerry. Senator Kerry also served in Vietnam admirably, but that didn't stop the thugs in leadership from attacking his record. A partisan "Swift Boat" commercial was launched against Kerry, which was wrought with inaccuracies, fabrications, and lies. The fictional commercial was shown everywhere by the so-called liberal media and Kerry went down in defeat.

Now the personal attacks are focused on John Murtha, a Democratic Congressman from Pennsylvania. Murtha dared to speak out against the war, heaven forbid, and is now the recipient of vicious smear tactics by the GOP attack dogs. Murtha served as a Marine for 37 years. He also served in Vietnam and received many medals for serving his country. However, that doesn't matter to those who want to discredit his service. It started with Jean Schmidt (R-OH), an unknown Congresswoman who has never served her country. They used her to call Murtha a "cut and run coward" in a speech on the House floor.

Since the Schmidt comment, it has only gotten worse for John Murtha. Conservative news services have claimed that Murtha didn't deserve his Purple Hearts while in Vietnam and that he lied in order to get the medals at all. This is the same exact tactic the dogs used against Kerry.

Yesterday, on the House floor, the attack machine used another relatively unknown Congressman to smear John Murtha. Representative Gohmert (R-TX), who also has never served his country, gave a speech on the House floor in which he said of Murtha, "Thank God he was not here and prevailed after the bloodbaths of Normandy and in the Pacific or we would be here speaking Japanese or German."

It should be noted that Murtha's father and three of his brothers all served during World War II. Murtha and his family have served admirably throughout American history and the people that attack him personally have never even picked up a gun to stand a post. Jean Schmidt and Gohmert are just pawns that are being used by Bush, Rove, and Cheney. The only one of those five to ever serve was Bush, who hid in the National Guard for a few years to avoid going to war. Cheney received five deferments to ensure he would never serve.

What's disappointing is that voters are buying this crap hook, line, and sinker. Conservatives, who should be able to think for themselves, now believe that McCain, Cleland, Kerry, and Murtha are just crazy people who never did anything for their country. Conservatives have bought these fabricated stories of the GOP attack machine and have helped bury men who were brave enough to serve out country and strong enough to speak out against these evil people.


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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2006 11:55 am
revel wrote:
Why not discuss the merits of Murtha's statements rather than making baseless commentary as usual?


Just following your illustrious example. His statements have no merit. They are the blatherings of a person trying to bolster their image and nothing more.
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paull
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 08:03 am
The attack machine can take the day off whenever Murtha speaks; no one can sink him better than himself.
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revel
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 10:04 am
paull wrote:
The attack machine can take the day off whenever Murtha speaks; no one can sink him better than himself.



Newspapers Issuing Correction to Reporting



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US Congressman John Murtha D-PA was in Florida over the weekend at a Townhall meeting at Florida International University.

The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported, Murtha saying, "American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran to a crowd of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon."

Teri Hayt, Managing Editor of The Arizona Star emails, "Sharon Rosenhause (Managing Editor of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel) from Ft. Lauderdale has just sent me a note saying that Rep. Murtha's office has contacted them saying he was quoted out of context. Sharon will be issuing a correction that will will run." The Arizona Star version of the story, which was linked on Sunday night by Matt Drudge has yet to issue a correction.

However, the newspaper does not offer a corrections listing on their website.

Britt Hume of Fox News has not updated his story, which reported on the comments alleged to have been made by Murtha. Hume however has not issued a correction to his earlier story.

John Fund, who wrote on Murtha's comments in The Wall Street Journal has neither corrected his article, or offered a correction.

When the South Florida Sun-Sentinel corrected their story, both the Fox News story by Brit Hume and John Fund's Op-Ed in the Wall Street Journal are no longer accurate representations of what happened. Yet neither writer has corrected their story. The News Media Guild "The News Media Guild's Professional Activities Committee is a group of reporters, editors, photographers, and broadcasters who work to foster quality journalism." This incident demonstrates the need for such a universal standard.

In the article, reporter Elizabeth Baier quoted several other of Congressman John Murtha's statements in her article, as well as a quote from others at the event, but did not quote the comments alleged to have been said by Murtha in the first paragraph of her article. Melissa Sanchez of the Miami Herald replying to an email, says that while Murtha made the comment, "That was in reference to international polls. It was not so much his own conjecture, but a conclusion drawn from polls in various countries."

So this alleged and most controversial statement, written by Baier appears to have taken his comments out of context.

The article has become a hot topic on the blogsphere. Conservative bloggers picked up the story and are repeating Baier's first paragraph of her article as a statement of fact. This started Sunday night, when Matt Drudge picked up the story on his web site.
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paull
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 11:17 am
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It was not so much his own conjecture


Is absolutely NOT saying that it is NOT his conjecture.

Anyway the fact remains that he is a geographically and ethically challenged
self promoter who has a hazy understanding of history. The Dems need to muzzle him and find someone else.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 12:27 pm
Murtha's quote is non-sensical.

""American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran to a crowd of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon"

Japan, China, S. Korea are already up in arms about N. Koreas possible TEST of the missle. Yet, Murtha thinks our presense in Iraq is more threatening than that?

This man is just another embarrasement to the democratic party.
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JustanObserver
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 10:10 pm
Hate to burst your bubble, fellas.

Murtha was misquoted. The newspaper issued a correction. I wonder which talk radio hosts are going to have the integrity to correct themselves over this one.
Here's my guess... one. If we're lucky.

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Correction: An article in Sunday's editions misinterpreted a comment from U.S. Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., at a town hall meeting in North Miami on Saturday. In his speech, Murtha said U.S. credibility was suffering because of continued U.S. military presence in Iraq ,and the perception that the U.S. is an occupying force. Murtha was citing a recent poll, by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, that indicates a greater percentage of people in 10 of 14 foreign countries consider the U.S. in Iraq a greater danger to world peace than any threats posed by Iran or North Korea.


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