visavis wrote:FINALLY you countered somthing heh ok.. so God exsists within my head - I have had my own doubts and this is where I went with it.. then how was the universe created? and that well 2 year venture brought me to believe in the God I do now.
Re: "how was the universe created", perhaps you might consider that it wasn't and perhaps you might consider the beliefs that conveniently answer your questions might be sourced in said desire for the answers more so than in actual veracity.
As an aside, please note that you ask how the universe was "created", automatically excluding other theories.
Quote:But anyways.. my dismissal of your 'stances' has been in response to your dismissal of mine -
I don't think I dismissed anything you said. I think you are conflating "dismiss" with "disagree and refute".
The operative difference is that one one hand you have not refuted or even attempted to refute much of what I said, on the other I have disagreed with you and argued against your position.
While you might think the two comparable insofar as acceptance of the other's ideas go they are not comparable insofar as intellectual rigor is concerned.
Quote:I am dissapointed in a person with a rather large vocabulary (you) that your origional reply to mine failed to supply anything along the lines of a counter arguement where as you just assumed I believed in an omnipotant God and attempted to bully me into as you said 'cessation'
1) I did not attempt to "bully" you into cessation. That was your role. You told me to stop posting. I don't do the same to you and, in fact welcome your posts as this is delightful and fun for me.
2) I did not assume you believed in an omnipotent god just as I didn't assume that you were asserting "50 sales". Both were
examples of circular logic to illustrate the deficiencies of the arguments you
did make.
You, on the other hand,
did assume that it was a reference to your beliefs.
I understand that you might be frustrated by having been lumped into other groupings in the past, but I did not do so with you.
My examples about omnipotence and the "50 sales" were precisely that, examples. The examples afforded you a close look at circular logic.
The circular logic you demonstrated was to incorporate your own belief (of an alternative dimension for your god) to substantiate the god.
It was a classic example of circular logic and I would be happy to discuss it with you.