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Haditha: Reasonable Doubt

 
 
Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 12:34 pm
HADITHA: REASONABLE DOUBT

Special from Hawaii Free Press
By Andrew Walden, 6/5/2006

Â…the accused must be presumed to be innocent until his guilt is established by legal and competent evidence beyond reasonable doubt." -- Uniform Code of Military Justice, USC Title 10, Chapter 47, Subchapter VII, Article 51(c)(1)
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 12:38 pm
Yes of course, the entire incident was one of simple household suicide.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 12:43 pm
I would expect SierraSong to post a similar response to the illegal holdings of the accused at Gitmo.
....but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 02:17 pm
Maybe the Iraqis are only "playing possum" and not really dead at all.

Maybe we had a legitimate reason to start this whole war in the first place.

And as long as we're going to talk fairytales...

Maybe if you're really, really good Santa will bring you a new bike for Christmas.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 02:25 pm
blacksmithn wrote:
Maybe the Iraqis are only "playing possum" and not really dead at all.

Maybe we had a legitimate reason to start this whole war in the first place.

And as long as we're going to talk fairytales...

Maybe if you're really, really good Santa will bring you a new bike for Christmas.

Why of course, even Robert McNamara apologised for lying about the war in Vietnam.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 02:27 pm
So we only have to wait 20 or so years for Shrub to apologize?
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candidone1
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 02:33 pm
That common people like McG believe the public has no business having intimate knowledge of military affairs, I'm sure that opinion is echoed throughout the ranks of the military.
That there is even a question of a coverup leads me to believe that the Haditha "massacre" requires an independent and impartial investigation (free from the bias of both the left and the right).
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 02:50 pm
You meant to say "alleged" massacre, right?
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 03:04 pm
"Investigators have concluded U.S. Marines dragged the man from his house and shot him before placing the shovel and AK-47 next to his body, implicating him as an insurgent, the official told CNN." http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/05/iraq.probes/index.html
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paull
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 04:45 pm
Pretty convincing.............NOT.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 05:02 pm
paull wrote:
Pretty convincing.............NOT.


Referring to what exactly?
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candidone1
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 05:05 pm
SierraSong wrote:
You meant to say "alleged" massacre, right?


No, I clearly meant that it was only an alleged massacre.
That the word massacre was put in quotation marks illustrated that fact.
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jun, 2006 09:35 am
Times Massacre

With Marines being accused of war crimes, the blogosphere is doing what it does best: scrutinizing the reporting. In this case, the site Sweetness & Light has been on Time magazine's case for what appears to be justifiable concerns over its reporting of the Nov. 19 Haditha incident, in which Marines are under investigation for killing two dozen innocent Iraqis.

Time first broke the story on Haditha in March, four months after the incident -- a delay which too few of the Marines' more ardent accusers (such as Rep. John Murtha) failed to question. One of Time's key sources who had taken footage of the aftermath was represented only as a "journalism student." It has since been learned that this eyewitness was Taher Thabet al Hadithi.

Here's how Time reporter Aparisim Ghosh described Mr. Hadithi: "[H]e's a young local man ... He brought the tape to Hammurabi Human Rights... and they brought it to us once they found out that we were inquiring about this."

In fact, Mr. Hadithi is middle-aged and a co-founder of the Hammurabi Organization. The Associated Press has described him as an "Iraqi investigator." Either Mr. Hadithi misrepresented himself to Time, or Time chose not to mention his association with the previously unknown Hammurabi Organization in its original article on the incident.

Then there's the timing issue. Mr. Hadithi says he witnessed Marines going house to house killing Iraqis, and videotaped the aftermath the next day. This raises the question of why Mr. Hadithi, or the Hammurabi Organization, waited at least two months before bringing his tape to the attention of the mainstream media, especially since Hammurabi proclaims itself a human-rights group. Nor did Hammurabi's other founder, Abdul-Rahman al Mashhadani, mention the alleged massacre during an interview with the Institute for War and Peace in December.

In a June 4 article, Time acknowledged Mr. Hadithi's connections to the Hammurabi Organization, and this time labeled him a "budding Iraqi journalist and human-rights activist." The article concludes, "If there is any beneficiary at all of the tragedy, it is Hammurabi...which is flooded with new volunteers and free to do its work more aggressively."

Time has had to correct its earlier contention that it received the video from Human Rights Watch, which Time identified as working with the Hammurabi Organization. Human Rights Watch, as Time now acknowledges, has no association with Hammurabi, raising yet another question: Just what is the Hammurabi Organization? More to the point, did Time adequately vet its founders for conflicts of interest before printing their story and putting our troops at greater risk?

Time has also had to correct its reporting that "one of the most damning pieces of evidence investigators have in their possession, John Sifton of Human Rights Watch told Time's Tim McGirk, is a photo, taken by a Marine with his cell phone that shows Iraqis kneeling -- and thus posing no threat -- before they were shot." Mr. Sifton has now admitted to Time that he has no firsthand knowledge of this mysterious photo.

As counter-evidence goes, Time's misreporting unfortunately does little to clear up what happened in Haditha. But as a case-in-point lesson in how the media can artfully angle a story, it's evidence enough.
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