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Military Now Recruiting Autistic Kids...

 
 
Reply Mon 8 May, 2006 07:34 pm
The Oregonian | MICHELLE ROBERTS | May 8, 2006 at 02:15 PM

Jared Guinther is 18. Tall and lanky, he will graduate from Marshall High School in June. Girls think he's cute, until they try to talk to him and he stammers or just stands there -- silent.

Diagnosed with autism at age 3, Jared is polite but won't talk to people unless they address him first. It's hard for him to make friends. He lives in his own private world.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 08:30 am
It seems at the beginning that they didn't know he was autistic. Trust me I know people who are in the military who should be but aren't. They are just slow or stupid and that is a long way from being autistic. My son is autistic but you can't tell he is because he has such a low level of autism. As for the recruiters well who knows maybe they did know maybe they didn't. If they did know and still signed the boy up then I hope they either get booted or have to go back to their regular MOS's. If they didn't know then I hope nothing happens to them but instead they get some extra training to spot such people in the future.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 09:04 am
Today's paper offered a nice, short rundown on the situation:

Quote:
When the call to service is distorted by recruiters
Pressure to produce soldiers for an increasingly unpopular war hurts the services and the troops
Tuesday, May 09, 2006
The tawdry recruitment of Southeast Portlander Jared Guinther shouldn't require a very lengthy "investigation" by the Army. It's obvious that Guinther, who is autistic and considered disabled, isn't an appropriate candidate to serve as a cavalry scout. Serving in such a role would endanger himself and his fellow soldiers.

As The Oregonian's Michelle Roberts reported in a disturbing story Sunday, Army recruiters signed Guinther, an 18-year-old high school senior, to a four-year Army contract and steered him toward a military career as a scout.

When his parents found he was taking an enlistment test, they were startled. They contacted the recruiters with information about Jared's disability, from the special education classes he's taken to the menial job he got through a program for disabled workers. Their concerns, they said, were dismissed. His stepmother said a recruiter told her, "Well, Jared's an 18-year-old man. He doesn't need his mommy to make decisions for him."

This is, in a word, outrageous. The Army and members of the state's congressional delegation should swiftly declare it so. Jared should be released from his contract, his parents apologized to and the recruiters disciplined.

The Army said Monday it is still investigating the case and doctors have asked for more medical records. Nobody outside the recruiting office where Jared was persuaded to enlist thinks he should serve, especially as a scout in a war zone.

Of course, the case of Jared Guinther is about something much larger than a single Portland teenager. The United States is fighting a dangerous and increasingly unpopular war, military recruitment numbers are lagging, and recruiters are under severe pressure to bring in new soldiers. The military has increased its bonus payments to those who enlist or re-enlist, put more recruiters in the field, raised the maximum recruiting age and relaxed rules that would bar some recruits from signing up.

Some recruiters have gone farther by deliberately bending the rules, recruiting people who shouldn't qualify for military service. While it's too soon to say that Jared's recruiters did so, recruiters elsewhere clearly have. Last year, after evidence that recruiters in Colorado, Texas and elsewhere had broken rules by threatening recruits, forging documents or agreeing to overlook criminal behavior, the Army called a one-day recruiting moratorium to emphasize the need for ethical behavior by recruiters.

The Army is in a tough spot, but it makes its position worse by knowingly taking advantage of vulnerable people. Not only do unqualified recruits pose risks to the Army's own troops, but they undermine the public's perception of the military and its methods. And that is a shame.

This country needs a well-qualified, well-equipped and highly motivated military force. And through training, education, discipline and even dangerous duty, the military can offer a better life to many. It can give structure, purpose and a sense of honor to many whose lives lack those qualities. It's regrettable when the clarity of that message is overshadowed by the Army's own misconduct.

By acting promptly and firmly, the Army can undo at least some of the damage it did itself by recruiting Jared Guinther.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 05:06 am
boomerang wrote:
Today's paper offered a nice, short rundown on the situation:

Quote:
When the call to service is distorted by recruiters
Pressure to produce soldiers for an increasingly unpopular war hurts the services and the troops
Tuesday, May 09, 2006
The tawdry recruitment of Southeast Portlander Jared Guinther shouldn't require a very lengthy "investigation" by the Army. It's obvious that Guinther, who is autistic and considered disabled, isn't an appropriate candidate to serve as a cavalry scout. Serving in such a role would endanger himself and his fellow soldiers.

As The Oregonian's Michelle Roberts reported in a disturbing story Sunday, Army recruiters signed Guinther, an 18-year-old high school senior, to a four-year Army contract and steered him toward a military career as a scout.

When his parents found he was taking an enlistment test, they were startled. They contacted the recruiters with information about Jared's disability, from the special education classes he's taken to the menial job he got through a program for disabled workers. Their concerns, they said, were dismissed. His stepmother said a recruiter told her, "Well, Jared's an 18-year-old man. He doesn't need his mommy to make decisions for him."

This is, in a word, outrageous. The Army and members of the state's congressional delegation should swiftly declare it so. Jared should be released from his contract, his parents apologized to and the recruiters disciplined.

The Army said Monday it is still investigating the case and doctors have asked for more medical records. Nobody outside the recruiting office where Jared was persuaded to enlist thinks he should serve, especially as a scout in a war zone.

Of course, the case of Jared Guinther is about something much larger than a single Portland teenager. The United States is fighting a dangerous and increasingly unpopular war, military recruitment numbers are lagging, and recruiters are under severe pressure to bring in new soldiers. The military has increased its bonus payments to those who enlist or re-enlist, put more recruiters in the field, raised the maximum recruiting age and relaxed rules that would bar some recruits from signing up.

Some recruiters have gone farther by deliberately bending the rules, recruiting people who shouldn't qualify for military service. While it's too soon to say that Jared's recruiters did so, recruiters elsewhere clearly have. Last year, after evidence that recruiters in Colorado, Texas and elsewhere had broken rules by threatening recruits, forging documents or agreeing to overlook criminal behavior, the Army called a one-day recruiting moratorium to emphasize the need for ethical behavior by recruiters.

The Army is in a tough spot, but it makes its position worse by knowingly taking advantage of vulnerable people. Not only do unqualified recruits pose risks to the Army's own troops, but they undermine the public's perception of the military and its methods. And that is a shame.

This country needs a well-qualified, well-equipped and highly motivated military force. And through training, education, discipline and even dangerous duty, the military can offer a better life to many. It can give structure, purpose and a sense of honor to many whose lives lack those qualities. It's regrettable when the clarity of that message is overshadowed by the Army's own misconduct.

By acting promptly and firmly, the Army can undo at least some of the damage it did itself by recruiting Jared Guinther.


This isn't a nice rundown it is another chance for someone who doesn't like recruiters to chop them down again. There was maybe one new paragraph on the issue and the rest of the article was bashing recruiters at every turn. Has anything new been put out on the story? This is nothing but cheap tricks by the writer.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 07:26 am
I meant "nice, short" as opposed to "nice, long" of the original article.

Yes there is new news: he has been released from his contract and will not be joining the military.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 07:35 am
I, for one, am grateful to our military for being so proactive as to recruit men and women from all walks of life-- and even with disabilities-- to serve our mighty President's glorious vision of victory in Iraq!
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