United 93

Your lack of perception is phenominal. I did not state that it was my opinion. Apparantly, the dunce cap does not fit and is causing you headaches. Aspirin, anyone?

My lack of perception is what? "Phenominal"???(sic)

The dunce cap is yours-- You really should use spell check.

The correct spelling is Phenomenal. If you can't spell an easy word like that how can you possibly understand reviews on movies?

I'm sure you would have trouble reading Roger Ebert.He uses BIG words sometimes.

He even uses "PHENOMENAL"

From what I have seen of the reconstruction and analysis of the black box recordings there was no evidence to have any sense of whether the passengers had got in into the cockpit or not, (though some evidence that they had, but no details at all) so either that is dramatic licence taken to extremes......or, has there been some further information that has became available giving some well supported version of what happened in the end?


Not that it takes away from the courage, whatever happened......the courage was in taking action.



I hope I have the guts to do that if ever in a similar situation, I really do.

Stooping to correcting typos now. It figures. A side-stepping tactic to avoid the actual argument. I stated that the film could be perceived as exploitive and that's understandable no matter what the reviewers write.
Exactly like "Brokeback Mountain," where the critics almost unanimously agreed it was not exploitive but a few naysayers who haven't even seen the movie believe it is.

Those are my feelings as well.

I can't get past the feeling inside that it is tacky to make this film - no matter how well done. And accuracy?
I don't know. It disturbs me and makes me uncomfortable. Am I the only one who feels this way?

You know all. It's odd how movies and life often make us imagine and then come back to earth. I flew for the very first time in my life shortly after 9/11. I was prepared to be fear stricken, and just the opposite occurred. The only fear that I really had was getting from concourse to concourse with my husband who was out of it at the time.

You have to admit it is getting great reviews -- 91% on the Rotten Tomatoes gauge:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/united_93/

It may be that "Brokeback Mountain" is indeed breaking new ground.
The virtures of tolerance. love and forebearance are implcit in its script. I have read that "Brokeback" may lead to another plea for tolerance and liberty. There have been discussions about the filming of the great play by one of our genius playwrights- Edward Albee. Albee gave us the incredibly beautiful play called-"Who is Sylvia" or "The Goat". The play is really a plea for understanding of the people among us who really love their pets. Some people try to undermine this these by calling it beastiality but Albee presents us with a man who really loves his goat, has carnal relations with the goat and, at the end, is absolutely disconsolate when his jealous wife murders the goat and tosses it on the living room floor.

Anyone who has not seen the play and heard the anguished cry of the man who loved his goat---"I REALLY LOVED HER-WHY DID YOU HAVE TO KILL HER" will get a new appreciation of those who oppose rigid and unreasonable societal strictures against loving( yes, carnally) your beloved animals.

I look forward to the film's release.

Italgato.

From This Week magazine, the film is one of their controversies of the week:

United 93
The horrors of Sept. 11, at a theater near you.
5/5/2006

First, you hear "the low, mumbling sound of Muslim prayers" from somewhere in the darkness, said Louis Wittig in National Review Online. Then all becomes confusion and terror?-passengers and hijackers yelling, frantic flight controllers, bloody stabbings with box cutters. At this point in a recent New York City screening of United 93, some audience members had their hands clamped over their mouths. One of them "groaned sporadically," got up, "stood in the aisle, still transfixed for a few seconds," and ran away. He didn't see the desperate calls to loved ones, the passengers' uprising, the final plunge to earth. When the lights came up, a World Trade Center survivor rushed for the bathroom to splash cold water on his face. "He muttered ?'Wow' several times and said he was still trying to breathe."

For any American who lived through that awful day, said Stephanie Zacharek in Salon.com, director Paul Greengrass' United 93 is a wrenching experience. On Sept. 11, having learned that terrorists had plunged three hijacked jets into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, some of the 40 passengers on a fourth plane rebelled and rushed the cockpit, only to die when the plane crashed in a field in Pennsylvania. United 93 is no crass exploitation flick; it's a "brilliantly crafted" tribute that displays "almost boundless sensitivity to persons living and dead." Yet for all of the film's integrity, it offers "no hope of transcendence," no relief from the nausea and heartache that lingers after you've fled the theater. "I've never had a more excruciating moviegoing experience in my life." I couldn't help but wonder "why it was made in the first place."

Obviously, to turn a profit, said Tom Matthews in The Philadelphia Inquirer. No matter how respectful United 93 may be, it's still a Hollywood product designed for the bottom line. We already know virtually everything we'll ever know about the flight; this film exists only to satisfy our "morbid curiosity." Given the benefit of distance and perspective, the entertainment industry may eventually produce a film that helps us think through Sept. 11, rather than simply dredging up the raw horror. "But there has been nowhere near enough time or resolution for these movies to be made right now."

Hard as it is to believe, said Ron Rosenbaum in Slate.com, United 93 is actually supposed to be a "feel-good movie about 9/11." Director Greengrass contends that by confronting al Qaida's barbarism, the rebelling passengers were the first Americans "to inhabit the post-9/11 world." But despite the passengers' heroism, I didn't leave the theater with any sense of uplift or hope. I was only reminded that on a beautiful September day, three planes hit their intended targets, killed 3,000 Americans, and caused mass rejoicing among "a cult of suicidal mass murderers" who have successfully "hijacked history."

Precisely, said Rich Lowry in the New York Post. A movie about 9/11 "that doesn't create a pit of fear, anger, and grief in your stomach" would be utterly phony. That's why United 93 is so powerful. It's "unsparing" in re-creating the brutality of the attack, and showing the nature of our new enemy. Yet the film also shows ordinary Americans facing this horrifying new challenge with intelligence, courage, and sacrifice. With the war on terror at a critical juncture, said David Beamer in The Wall Street Journal, the message could not be more relevant. When my son, Todd, told his fellow passengers, "Let's roll," he began the defense of the American homeland. "This film is a wake-up call," and I hope free people everywhere will be inspired by it.

Most people think that Albee is one of our country's most brilliant playwrights. He is certainly a higher level genius than Ang.

The winner of the award for Logic of the Year, ladies and gents. *polite applause*

Yeppers...and plenty more of that quality to come.

This is Italmassagrotto's latest persona, methinketh.

Should be some real keepers coming.

You are absolutely correct,Dlowan. How percpetive of you. But tell me, have you had the thrilling experience of seeing one of the best plays of the modern era--"Who is Slyvia" or "The Goat"by the brilliant Edward ALbee? If you have not, I urge you to see it. It is a plea for tolerance and love. These are, if I may say so, two virtues which are lacking in our modern day!!

What's with you and Albee?

I thought this was a well made movie. Watching it with and audience was an interesting experience. Everybody in the theatre had a shared connection with the subject matter. All I can say is that it was mostly a personal experience.

It's a wish dream. He wishes he were the goat.

I read a couple reviews. Very weird, to say the absolute least.

Well, so far he is obsessed with Ted Kennedy, Albee and someone else whose name I have forgotten.


It IS an interesting play, though. And, at least it is fairly current.

Dlowan, you ask "What is it with me and Albee"? Have you seen or read the play?

First of all, he is my favorite playwright. That should be enough.

But, more significantly, Albee has struck a blow for those who believe that people should be allowed to love their pets. By love, he means carnal love. He is, in his play, clearly in favor of Bestiality. Only those who do not know the joys of close interaction with one's pets will scoff.
Albee has struck a blow against the forces of intolerance and hate who do not understand the true nature of love and affection--even if it is between a man and his beast.

Now, do you understand why I reference Albee. He speaks the truth and is trying to free us from years of intolerance and hate!!!