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Immigrants' Boycott

 
 
yitwail
 
Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 09:47 am
i know there are existing threads that ecompass this topic, but i wanted to discuss today's events specifically.

i live in San Diego county, and the effect was noticeable as soon as i hit the freeway: no traffic on what is usually the second most congested stretch of freeway in SD. lest anyone give credit to a solidarity walkout by liberals, SD county is staunchly conservative. it's the county that chose now disgraced congressman Randall "Duke" Cunningham to represent them, for example. Rolling Eyes

i'm sympathetic to the immigrants' cause, by the way, but can't help wondering if anyone claimed that reducing immigration would ease traffic congestion.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 09:49 am
No voy a trabajar hoy.
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yitwail
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 09:59 am
Roxxxanne wrote:
No voy a trabajar hoy.


wish i could say tampoco yo, but i'm slated to be outsourced at the end of June, so i'm trying to do everything in my poder to have the management reconsider and thus skipping work today is not a feasible option.
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paull
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 10:34 am
LOL Roxanne aren't you on disability anyway?
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 12 May, 2006 04:51 am
What part of the County?
I was born and raised in Oceanside,but I spent my high school years in Ramona.

Even though I live in Ky now,I still call San Diego county home.
According to the SD paper online edition,there was some violence in SD county during the walkout,but they didnt go into detail.
What happened?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 12 May, 2006 05:03 am
mysteryman wrote:
What part of the County?
I was born and raised in Oceanside,but I spent my high school years in Ramona.

Even though I live in Ky now,I still call San Diego county home.
According to the SD paper online edition,there was some violence in SD county during the walkout,but they didnt go into detail.
What happened?


Thanks to the illegal immigrate population in SD one hospital (scripps) has already closed because they couldn't cover the price of providing free help to those who don't belong here. How many citizens have died or been harmed because there is now one less hospital for them to go to.
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yitwail
 
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Reply Fri 12 May, 2006 12:03 pm
mm, i've lived just north of escondido city limits for 3 years, but before that, i lived in Carlsbad for a long time. when's the last time you lived in SD county? if it's 10 years or more, you may hardly recognize the place now. they've just developed middle to upper income housing like crazy. lot of san diegans live in riverside because they can't afford SD housing, which is bought by orange county people who can't afford orange county housing. and every day, they commute into SD from riverside and into OC from SD.

i don't read a paper anymore, and don't watch TV news either, so don't know anything more about violence here than you do.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 12 May, 2006 12:34 pm
yitwail wrote:
mm, i've lived just north of escondido city limits for 3 years, but before that, i lived in Carlsbad for a long time. when's the last time you lived in SD county? if it's 10 years or more, you may hardly recognize the place now. they've just developed middle to upper income housing like crazy. lot of san diegans live in riverside because they can't afford SD housing, which is bought by orange county people who can't afford orange county housing. and every day, they commute into SD from riverside and into OC from SD.

i don't read a paper anymore, and don't watch TV news either, so don't know anything more about violence here than you do.


I moved about 5 years ago from east county. I lived in El Cajon and La Mesa. I also did most of my construction work in Spring Valley, Chula Vista, National City and Lemon Grove. We did some work in La Jolla, Poway and Ramona. This was in the late 90's when most of the area east of Chula Vista was unused farm land. The amount of illegals I worked with was through the roof and I'm sure it is worse now.
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yitwail
 
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Reply Fri 12 May, 2006 12:47 pm
east county is still largely agricultural, i believe, so there will be migrant workers from time to time, but i don't see why it would be growing.

this is off topic, but i'lll mention something interesting i learned in Belize when we visited there recently. the number one cash crop in Belize is banana, but all the workers on banana plantations are Guatemalan (and probably undocumented.) Belizeans don't want to work in fields that are regularly sprayed with toxic chemicals, but Guatemalans don't have the choice because their standard of living is so much lower. when we drove through Guatemala on the way to Tikal, my wife was shocked at seeing so many malnourished horses. our driver told us that when some animal protection agency tried to supply the villagers with food for the horses, the people ate it themselves. Sad
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 12 May, 2006 01:50 pm
yitwail wrote:
east county is still largely agricultural, i believe, so there will be migrant workers from time to time, but i don't see why it would be growing.

this is off topic, but i'lll mention something interesting i learned in Belize when we visited there recently. the number one cash crop in Belize is banana, but all the workers on banana plantations are Guatemalan (and probably undocumented.) Belizeans don't want to work in fields that are regularly sprayed with toxic chemicals, but Guatemalans don't have the choice because their standard of living is so much lower. when we drove through Guatemala on the way to Tikal, my wife was shocked at seeing so many malnourished horses. our driver told us that when some animal protection agency tried to supply the villagers with food for the horses, the people ate it themselves. Sad


You are thinking the far east county. From PB all the way to Lakeside it is solid city just about. You don't hit the growing fields until you get out near El Centro which is of course almost the desert. I am talking about construction jobs like building houses and of course the new schools in the new communities. I was there about two years ago and the building hasn't slowed much. The illegals are flooding across the border right from the TJ area but you don't see that living in the mostly white areas north of Clairmount Mesa were the houses are more expensive then they are in the south and east sides of the county.
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yitwail
 
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Reply Fri 12 May, 2006 02:00 pm
ah, got ya. construction jobs, that's something i hadn't considered. you think there are enough documented workers to meet the demand for labor? or without undocumented workers, would housing prices go up even more than they already have? i'm not saying that would be bad, necessarily, but we should keep in mind that home construction is supposedly one of the strongest sectors in the economy, so a slowdown there would have a big impact.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Sat 13 May, 2006 09:49 am
yitwail wrote:
ah, got ya. construction jobs, that's something i hadn't considered. you think there are enough documented workers to meet the demand for labor? or without undocumented workers, would housing prices go up even more than they already have? i'm not saying that would be bad, necessarily, but we should keep in mind that home construction is supposedly one of the strongest sectors in the economy, so a slowdown there would have a big impact.


I think it would only be for a short time. The amount of labor needed would be filled once citizens would be able to get the jobs. I knew quite a few people who were willing to work but couldn't get the work due to illegal aliens already having them. I don't think the cost of homes would rise all that much. The cost of having citizens employed would well out way the increase of the price of homes.
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yitwail
 
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Reply Sat 13 May, 2006 01:33 pm
baldimo, let me sound you out on a related topic. if you've already stated your position on another thread, i'll settle for a link to it. so, what's your take on the administration's guest worker proposal? since you're a conservative, i expect you tend to support pro-business/anti-labor initiatives, but do you oppose this proposal?
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