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Kosher Sex?

 
 
Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 11:32 am
So tell me please, what makes sex kosher?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 11:34 am
you get it at the deli?
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 11:36 am
Depends on who works at the Deli!
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jespah
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 11:37 am
As I'm sure you're aware, "kosher" refers to certain requirements for food. If you mean "kosher" in the colloquial sense of "permitted" then that depends on your morals, doesn't it? E. g. do you need to wait until marriage, must it be heterosexual contact, must it be straight intercourse or can it be something else, etc.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 11:37 am
Sex is neither kosher nor non-kosher. Ultra orthodox Jews have sexual practices with regards to their faith, so I suppose that colloquially, you could call it "kosher".............
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 11:54 am
No mutual bacon-frying in the nude, and no cloven hooved animals involved, I would expect...
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:10 pm
Source of this question: Essay by Rabbi S. Riskin in last week's International Jerusalem Post. The Rabbi was discussing the following passage from Leviticus:

"You shall be holy, for I, the Lord your God, am holy".
Leviticus 19:2

Rabbi Riskin now asks " How does one become holy"? Two Jewish philosophers take up different points of view. The first states, that to be holy, one must be holy in ALL things in life. The second states, to be holy, according to the Leviticus passage, is to be holy in marriage. Namely, to be holy is to engage in "kosher sex".

Jespah has given an excellent response and one with which I agree, although I couldn't possibly have expressed myself as well.

However, to be holy before God, I believe, we must be holy in all things, not only one aspect of our lives, namely married life.


Back a bit: Hebrew root for marriage is the same (?) as the root for holy? (Correct me if I'm wrong).
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husker
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:11 pm
a splash or this or dat on my pickle?????????????
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husker
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:12 pm
great pickle and bunn!


opps that was the other topic - something bout smells and bbq
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:13 pm
Oh?
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:13 pm
How many couples are actually "holy" in marriage?
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husker
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:15 pm
My Mrs says "holy man o'geez" all the time
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:15 pm
I don't know, but this site may be of help, I learned a lot:

http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:17 pm
Thanks for the link, CAV.
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:19 pm
ORAL SEX:

A Rabbi, I consulted has informed me, that the only place where "oral sex"
is mentioned in the Hebrew Bible, as far as he knows iis in "The Song of Songs". To figure this out, you have to be Hebrew-proficient.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:28 pm
Here is Rabbi Boteach's opinion:

Host says:

what about oral sex?

Rabbi_Boteach says:

Now you're getting controversial. I got into a lot of trouble on that one. Basically, the Torah prohibits intentional destruction of seed. But, I contend that oral sex does not constitute this since the couple is not looking to frustrate the impregnation process but rather simply to do something new so that their sex doesn't become boring. The most important thing is always to have a healthy sex life with your spouse.

He wrote a controversial book called, funny enough, 'Kosher Sex'. A simple Google search will give you lots of info about it.
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husker
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:36 pm
yikes!! man I got that turned around - but no problem I can deal with it!!
"Sex is the woman's right, not the man's. A man has a duty to give his wife sex regularly and to ensure that sex is pleasurable for her"

Her every breath is a sign
""He is also obligated to watch for signs that his wife wants sex, and to offer it to her without her asking for it. ""
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:46 pm
Waste your seed?

So that's a prohibiton against masturbation?
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:47 pm
Husker:

What's the source of the quotes?
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New Haven
 
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Reply Thu 8 May, 2003 12:48 pm
"The most important thing is always to have a healthy sex life with your spouse. "


So, is that more important than a moral sex life?
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