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SAS soldier quits Army in disgust at 'illegal' American tact

 
 
Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 06:38 am
SAS soldier quits Army in disgust at 'illegal' American tactics in Iraq
By Sean Rayment, Defence Correspondent
(Filed: 12/03/2006)

An SAS soldier has refused to fight in Iraq and has left the Army over the "illegal" tactics of United States troops and the policies of coalition forces.

After three months in Baghdad, Ben Griffin told his commander that he was no longer prepared to fight alongside American forces.

Ben Griffin told commanders that he thought the Iraq war was illegal
He said he had witnessed "dozens of illegal acts" by US troops, claiming they viewed all Iraqis as "untermenschen" - the Nazi term for races regarded as sub-human.

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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 06:41 am
1. Most wars in history have not had even a flimsy pretense of legality. Wars have usually been considered inherently extra-legal.
2. I guess the "tactics" of the insurgents we're fighting, or of the Saddam Hussein regime we replaced, are/were much more moral, right?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 06:58 am
It immediately brought to an end Mr Griffin's exemplary, eight-year career in which he also served with the Parachute Regiment, taking part in operations in Northern Ireland, Macedonia and Afghanistan."

"Mr Griffin, 28, who spent two years with the SAS, said the American military's "gung-ho and trigger happy mentality" and tactics had completely undermined any chance of winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi population. He added that many innocent civilians were arrested in night-time raids and interrogated by American soldiers, imprisoned in the notorious Abu Ghraib prison, or handed over to the Iraqi authorities and "most probably" tortured.

Mr Griffin eventually told SAS commanders at Hereford that he could not take part in a war which he regarded as "illegal".

He added that he now believed that the Prime Minister and the Government had repeatedly "lied" over the war's conduct.

"I did not join the British Army to conduct American foreign policy," he said. He expected to be labelled a coward and to face a court martial and imprisonment after making what "the most difficult decision of my life" last March.

Instead, he was discharged with a testimonial describing him as a "balanced, honest, loyal and determined individual who possesses the strength of character to have the courage of his convictions"."....



Hmm...very interesting...the SAS are not exactly known for being squeamish, and those theatres are not easy ones.


He must consider things pretty damn bad, and I have grea admiration for him.

He is not the only one mentioned in that story, by the way:

On Wednesday, the pre-trial hearing will begin into the court martial of Flt Lt Malcolm Kendall-Smith, a Royal Air Force doctor who has refused to return to Iraq for a third tour of duty on the grounds that the war is illegal. Mr Griffin's allegations came as the Foreign Office minister Kim Howells, visiting Basra yesterday, admitted that Iraq was now "a mess".

I had heard about him a couple of days ago.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 09:38 am
I don't believe the US stops for tea.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 10:37 am
McGentrix wrote:
I don't believe the US stops for tea.


Nor does the UK. What are you getting at?
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