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Limbaugh Calls Rape Victim a "ho"

 
 
Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 06:32 am
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Limbaugh called alleged Duke rape victim a "ho[ ]"

Summary: On his national syndicated radio program, Rush Limbaugh referred to the alleged victim of a rape by members of the Duke University lacrosse team as a "ho[]."

During the March 31 broadcast of his national syndicated radio program, Rush Limbaugh referred to the alleged victim of a rape by members of the Duke University lacrosse team as a "ho[]." During an on-air discussion with a caller, Limbaugh said that former Democratic presidential candidate Al Sharpton was "trying to figure out how he can get involved in the deal down there at Duke where the lacrosse team ... supposedly, you know, raped some, uh, hos." Limbaugh's made the comment about a recent incident in Durham, North Carolina, in which an exotic dancer was allegedly raped by three members of the Duke lacrosse team. The incident has invoked further controversy because the victim, an African-American, has alleged that her attackers used racial epithets. Prompted by another caller to apologize for his words, Limbaugh said that he had made the statement because he was "running on fumes today," and called it a "terrible slip of the tongue." But he then added that there are "some inconsistencies" in the case and rephrased his apology, telling the second caller, "I regret that you heard me say it."

From the March 31 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

CALLER 1: Why is it, do you think, that you haven't heard hardly anything from Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton about the whole immigration thing? I mean, the silence is deafening from --

LIMBAUGH: Well, they're busy.

CALLER 1: -- the NAACP [National Association for the Advancement of Colored People] and the --

LIMBAUGH: They're -- they're busy. They're busy. The Reverend Jackson is in New Orleans. He's leading a big march there tomorrow. The march is -- what is it called? The -- the march for the right to return a protected vote and reconstruction. He's trying to -- they got problems down in New Orleans. They don't have voter base, and Sharpton's working on a New Orleans deal, too. He's trying to figure out how he can get involved in the deal down there at Duke where the lacrosse team --

CALLER 1: Yeah.

LIMBAUGH: -- uh, supposedly, you know, raped, some, uh, hos.

CALLER 1: But I don't think they're very happy about all of this.

LIMBAUGH: Yeah, well, but, the problem -- that -- that has a possibility down -- that Duke thing's got a possibility of being a Tawana Brawley situation. That -- and Sharpton's got a balance -- can he afford another one of those as -- as his life's going on? New Orleans is a big deal to him, and I -- I'm gonna tell you something. You'll -- you'll see these guys -- at some point, they will get involved, be-because when Ted Kennedy calls it the new civil rights movement, that's Jesse Jackson's turf. He owns it. So --

CALLER 1: Right.

LIMBAUGH: Yeah, anyway, I gotta run here because of the constraints of time out there. [Caller], a great, great question. Uh, exotic dancer, OK, say rape -- whatever happened. You know what it is down there at Duke. It's -- you watch what happens in that. That's --

[...]

LIMBAUGH: It's open-line Friday, and I am Rush Limbaugh, America's anchorman and your host for life. This is -- this is [caller] from Bryant, Texas. Hello, [caller], great to have you with us.

CALLER 2: Rush, did you just call those young ladies "hos" on the nationally syndicated program?

LIMBAUGH: Yes.

CALLER 2: Do you know something about them that perhaps we don't know?

LIMBAUGH: Yes, yes I did.

CALLER 2: Oh, you --

LIMBAUGH: It was a, it was -- hang on -- now, what, what did you say there, [caller]?

CALLER 2: I said, because -- and if they are hos, it doesn't mean that they can still -- you can do to 'em whatever you want.

LIMBAUGH: No.

CALLER 2: Well, why would you call them hos on the national --

LIMBAUGH: Well, because, because I'm running on fumes today, [caller], and I felt terrible about it. And I knew somebody was gonna call and give me a little grief so I'm takin' the occasion of your call to apologize for it. That was, it was a terrible slip of the tongue. I'm sorry. But it wasn't the worst one that has been said recently. You want -- do you know who Keanu Reeves is?

CALLER 2: Yeah, I know who he is. He's an actor.

LIMBAUGH: Well, he's, he's, he's an actor.

CALLER 2: Yeah.

LIMBAUGH: He's a whacko. He's, he's an -- an actor and, he -- what was he doing? He was -- the Women Against Domestic Violence group was already in a dither because Keanu Reeves told an interviewer he learned something filming a rape scene with Hilary Swank for a movie called The Gift. And he said was, what he learned was that some of these ladies don't mind it.

CALLER 2: OK. But --

LIMBAUGH: He said he learned that in a rape scene but -- so, you know, I'm not the worst offender.

CALLER 2: Well, I hope you --

LIMBAUGH: I just, I'm looking at this case down there at Duke, [caller], and it's -- there's some things about it, some inconsistencies. You've got some timeline differentiations and matriculations and, and so forth. I'm just -- but it was, it was terrible slip of the tongue, and I am, I am terribly, I am terribly sorry.

CALLER 2: Well, I was hoping that your animosity for Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton wasn't your motivation for calling them hos.

LIMBAUGH: No -- why -- they, they have nothing to do with it.

CALLER 2: Oh, OK. Well, but, I -- it definitely offended me to hear you say that on the national program. The world's largest -- as you say.

LIMBAUGH: Yeah, well --

CALLER 2: But maybe you should take half your brain from behind your back next time.

LIMBAUGH: You know, I'm thinking what I ought to do, [caller], is something that I used to do in the early days of this program and that is spank myself.

CALLER 2: Well, I don't know if that's gonna work. The apology would be good.

LIMBAUGH: I just -- how -- you want me to apologize again? I'm sorry.

CALLER 2: Oh, no, I'm saying -- the apology was good.

LIMBAUGH: I regret that you heard me say it.


The Republicans aren't racists or misogynists though, of course. Their heroes call black women "ho's, welfare drag queens and ghetto sluts" while they sit idly by. It's laughable, a pathetic collection of racist, misogynist, homophobic "Christians" who decieve themselves and live in a parallel sphere of consciousness. Too bad they don't stay there and let the sane folks run the world.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 07:01 am
What did you expect? IMO Limbaugh is a schmuck who has diarrhea of the mouth. He is so full of himself that he thinks that he can say just about anything with impunity.

Limbaugh basically is an entertainer, who knows his audience. He plays to them. I think though, that his grandiosity has gotten the best of him.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 07:06 am
Actually, he probably can. Both he and Boortz depend upon making inflamatory remarks in order to attract and keep an audience. Those who consider such remarks funny, those who think it's "cool."
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candidone1
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 08:16 am
I especially liked this defense of calling a rape victim a "ho".

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there's some things about it, some inconsistencies. You've got some timeline differentiations and matriculations...



Well done Rush.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 09:58 am
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LIMBAUGH: I regret that you heard me say it.


At least he's honest.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 10:17 am
candidone1 wrote:
I especially liked this defense of calling a rape victim a "ho".

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there's some things about it, some inconsistencies. You've got some timeline differentiations and matriculations...



Well done Rush.


Matriculations? The timeline entered an institution of higher education?
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astromouse
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 11:12 am
Well, I read it and to be honest , seems like a slip of the tongue; he may think that and it slipped, at least he apologized right there, although I substract points from his apology for trying to use Keanu Reeves as a deflection, because how are Limbaugh's actions the responsibility of anyone but himself?

Bear in mind i do not carry a torch for Limbaugh, I dislike him deeply but still a faux pas is just that.
I do not share his points of view because a rape victim is still a rape victim , no matter his/her job/occupation, but still it seems to me that it shouldn't be made into that big of a deal when he has more skeletons in his closet which are a big deal.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 11:19 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
What did you expect? IMO Limbaugh is a schmuck who has diarrhea of the mouth. He is so full of himself that he thinks that he can say just about anything with impunity.

Limbaugh basically is an entertainer, who knows his audience. He plays to them. I think though, that his grandiosity has gotten the best of him.


Limbaugh may be an entertainer, but he is taken seriously enough by some powerful people that him and his inanities can't be brushed aside lightly. He has and does help set the tone for what passes as acceptable - first by the rightwingnut fringe, then others...
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 02:59 pm
Perhaps Limbaugh was calling her a "Ho Ho" because he was fixating on a particularly tasty snack cake at that moment.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:18 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
Perhaps Limbaugh was calling her a "Ho Ho" because he was fixating on a particularly tasty snack cake at that moment.


Yeah, that's probably it....

He's just a big harmless softbody in search of a Hostess dingDong.

...yup - nodoubtaboutit....
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:27 pm
Snood wrote:
Tex Antoine was the weatherman on WABC's "Eyewitness News" in the early '70s. I believe it was in 1974, when after a story on a rape attack in NYC, Tex "jokingly" said something to the effect of "When rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it", and was promptly fired (I recall watching this on tv during dinner, and my mother's shock at the remark). I believe he made an attempted comeback a short time before his death, but his poor judgment in that one instance essentially ruined the career of what was otherwise a witty and talented newscaster.


http://www.tvparty.com/lostnytex.html

What the person who wrote this piece did NOT say was that "Uncle Wethbee" often came on the TV a bit, shall we say, "impaired".

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Limbaugh may be an entertainer, but he is taken seriously enough by some powerful people that him and his inanities can't be brushed aside lightly. He has and does help set the tone for what passes as acceptable - first by the rightwingnut fringe, then others...


The times certainly have changed as to what is acceptable in the media........
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:35 pm
Phoenix,
I didn't write some of what you attributed to me, above...
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RichNDanaPoint
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 07:21 pm
I'll bet he purchased his drugs from a few HO's
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 07:29 pm
Sorry, Snood- I screwed up my quotations. You wrote the bottom quote.................and I can't edit. Sad
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 07:32 pm
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Sorry, Snood- I screwed up my quotations. You wrote the bottom quote.................and I can't edit. Sad


no biggie - just didn't wanna claim someone else's stuff.... :wink:
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 08:24 pm
This lacrosse team rape has become a big issue not only for the crime itself but how it has divided the community. For those of you not from the Northeast, lacrosse has traditionally been the sport of choice among the prep schools that is, white, monied, privileged. Duke, is, well, of course, Duke.

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Duke lacrosse case stirs tensions along class, race, gender lines
BY THOMAS FITZGERALD
Knight Ridder Newspapers
DURHAM, N.C. - Carrying a cardboard placard, Sue McMurray bore witness alone in front of the now-infamous "Lacrosse House" yards from the East Campus of Duke University on Thursday afternoon. "We Believe Her," the sign said.

Other signs plastered on the porch railing of the shabby white-frame house disagreed. "Innocent Until Proven Guilty," one said.

It was in this house, prosecutors say, that late on March 13, a black female student from nearby North Carolina Central University, hired as an exotic dancer for a team party, was raped, beaten and choked by three white men who taunted her with racist names.

The incident, with its volatile mixture of race, class privilege and sex, has sharpened the long-simmering tensions between an affluent university that is among the nation's academic elite and a working-class town with a large African American population.

"I don't want to see this young woman steamrolled," said McMurray, 71, a retired teacher who lives in Durham. "She can easily be manipulated as crazy or intoxicated or that she `wanted' it. Powerful people have already begun the process of shading the truth."

As she spoke, a woman leaned out the window of a passing SUV and yelled: "She sold herself for money!"

Police have not yet filed charges, and the captains of the lacrosse team - who rented the house - have issued a statement calling the rape allegations "totally and transparently false."

Yet vigils and protests on campus have erupted almost daily since the investigation came to light March 24. Last Wednesday, for instance, activists distributed "wanted" flyers featuring photos of lacrosse players as hundreds marched to mark the annual Take Back the Night observance against rape.

Duke's president suspended the lacrosse season last week, but also cautioned that the players are presumed innocent. Some people accuse the university of being slow to respond and say that the lacrosse players should speak up about what happened. So far, they have said virtually nothing.

Prosecutors obtained a court order compelling 46 of the 47 team members to give DNA samples and have their torsos photographed (The prosecutors did not give the test to the 47th player because he is black and the woman has sworn that the attackers were white.) Results of the DNA test are due next week. Meanwhile, the players scrimmaged on a Duke practice field late Friday afternoon. Duke is a national lacrosse power and is ranked sixth in the country.

None of the lacrosse players has spoken to reporters, and the two team members from the Philadelphia region - star defenseman Tony McDevitt of Philadelphia and defenseman Erik Henkelman of Swarthmore - could not be reached.

Steven Henkelman, Erik's father, said in a telephone interview on Saturday that the team members were innocent.

"Everybody involved has been devastated," Steven Henkelman said. "All the players are confident that the DNA tests will exonerate them, and we stand behind all our boys."

He declined to say whether his son was at the party the night of the alleged incident. Although he and the other parents are confident that the men will be cleared, "the damage has been done for these guys. The stain won't go away," Henkelman said.

According to court documents, the accuser told police:

She and another dancer started their routines, and a crowd of about 40 men became "excited and aggressive," so they left. But some of the men coaxed them back inside. The accuser said she was then forced into a bathroom - was told, "You're not leaving, sister" - and was then raped by three men for 30 minutes before she fled. Police said the dancer was robbed of a cell phone and cash, which were recovered in a search.

Next-door neighbor Jason Bissey, 26, said Thursday that he was on his porch that night. He said that he saw men milling around in the yard and heard racial epithets. "I heard some talk about money, like `I want my money back.' " As the dancers sped off in a car, Bissey said, one of the men yelled: "Thank your grandpa for my nice cotton shirt!"

Bissey, a grill chef at Pop's Restaurant who is white, said he was not surprised. "This is the South, so there's a lot of history here," he said. "There are plantations just outside of town. People still self-segregate. It's an old story."

Duke's projected tuition, room and board for this year is $41,240, about the median income in Durham, a city of 187,000 that was a former textile and tobacco center.

The city has almost as many blacks as whites - 44 percent to 45 percent, according to the 2000 census. The university says its student body is 10.8 percent black.

"You have some people that still refer to the university as `The Plantation,' " said Michael Palmer, Duke's director of community affairs, who is African American and a former county official. "But there's a complex, intertwined relationship between Duke and Durham, both positive and negative."

For instance, he said, local residents talk of lifesaving care at the medical center. The university also leases one-third of Durham's office space and is a major engine in the local economy, responsible for $2.6 billion annually, according to a 2004 study.

Since 1996, Duke has sponsored a $12 million neighborhood-partnership program that has provided tutoring in the public schools, after-school programs, health clinics, and at least 80 units of affordable housing in poor areas of the city.

"This incident is significant in that it exposes tensions and anger, but ... the relationships we have built will continue well after the media leave," Palmer said.

A temporary city of satellite trucks, electronic cables and bright lights has sprung up on the greensward in front of the Gothic tower of the Duke Chapel, to feed the appetite of the 24-hour cable networks.

"It has been the topic of the last few weeks," said freshman Michael Renner, 19, of Belmont, Mass. "If it happened, it's an absolute atrocity, but it's important for people to reserve judgment until actual evidence comes forward."

He said that he has a couple of good friends on the lacrosse team who weren't at the party - "They're absolute stand-up guys" - and was worried that they would be stigmatized.

Some students said the events were embarrassing to Duke. "Admissions decisions are being made now, and people who are accepted are deciding whether to come here," said Daniel Stroth, 19, a freshman from London. "It reflects badly on all of us, even though it was the actions of a couple of people."

Last week also was sexual assault prevention week at Duke. "Something like this takes away that sense of security" and provokes "fear and anger," said Donna Lisker, director of the Duke Women's Center and a native of Lafayette Hill, Pa. She said the center saw a spike in the number of women asking for help last week.

At the historically black North Carolina Central University across town, students also were buzzing.

"They're getting off the hook - at least they should be in custody," said Ebony Davenport, 20, a junior biology major from Baltimore. "I think, if you have money, you can get away with pretty much anything."

Said Malorie Howard, a 19-year-old freshman from Oxford, N.C.: "A lot of students feel that if it was our football players at a party and a white girl from Duke came over here and got raped, they'd already be locked up."

No one interviewed knew the victim, a 27-year-old mother of two.

Lawyers for the lacrosse players say that District Attorney Michael Nifong, appointed to the post last year and facing a challenge for the Democratic nomination in the May primary, had convicted the men with his frequent public comments. They said that the DNA evidence would exonerate their clients.

"I'm in a position where my client has to prove a negative - and we don't do that in this system," said Kerry Sutton, who is representing team captain Matt Zash. She said that Zash was watching "Late Show With David Letterman'' in his room and did not hear anything from the bathroom. Zash volunteered to give a DNA sample even before the court order and offered to take a polygraph test, which prosecutors rejected, Sutton said.

Durham lawyer Tom Loflin, a veteran member of the defense bar, said that the order to give DNA samples was illegal because it was too broad, aimed at 46 men. Any evidence that comes from the tests could be suppressed, he said.

"It was a huge fishing expedition, a dragnet," said Loflin, who is not involved in the case. "It's election season."

Nifong did not respond to calls, but he has said that he has other evidence, such as the woman's injuries, to prove sexual assault. The prosecutor has threatened to charge players who are not speaking to investigators as accomplices.

As a network reporter prepared to do her sixth stand-up report of the day Thursday, Duke student Jonathan Port rolled his eyes.

Although he said "the outrage is justified," he and other students are eager for a resolution.

"People here on campus are tired of hearing updates that have no substance," said Port, a junior philosophy major from Chicago.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 08:27 pm
BTW after understanding the reference, it makes Limbaugh's commnets even more disgusting.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 09:05 pm
I'm hoping it doesn't have any Tawana Brawley aspects.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2006 06:44 am
How quaint, they have a token black Lacrosse player.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2006 07:00 am
I understand the history, and the racial implications. The problem is, if one goes too deeply into those issues, it will muddy the waters.

Bottom line is that a woman claims that she was raped. If the perps can be found, and the law proves that indeed she WAS raped, the offenders should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
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