Jason Proudmoore wrote:hephzibah wrote: Bwaaaaaaaaa hahaha!
You will have to control yourself, my dear, before I'm forced to call the men in white.
Quote:hephzibah wrote: Jason... I think I have finally met my match. You are quite possibly the most stubborn man I have ever met in my life, and my stubbornness has gone virtually unchallenged until now. Grrrrr...
And that's not a compliment. I know. It is extremely hard for me to try and talk reason with the illogical. It is exhausting.
Life is what you make it Mr. Man. If you choose to let trying to "talk and reason" with the illogical exhaust you... well... there's not a thing anyone can do about that but you. I could say the same about myself, however, I don't find this exhausting, I find it challenging. :wink:
Quote:hephzibah wrote: First of all the bible itself IS a tangible thing.
If you are talking about the physical aspect of it, yeah it is tangible
I only asked that question because I didn't know in which context you used the word "tangible."
I mainly ask that question because I expect the unexpected with people who think like you.
Oohh reeeeeally? People who think like me huh? Do you mean people who don't agree with you? Perhaps?
Quote:hephzibah wrote: Second of all I said nothing about "belief" in my most recent statements.
What is your point? You have said it before
am I not to expect that from you?
Oooh... wait... I thought you just said that you expect the unexpected from people who think like me? Hmmmm....
Quote:hephzibah wrote: And finally... you are most effectively dodging the whole purpose of this thread. Which is to discuss what "truth" is.
Are you talking about finding "the truth" philosophically? If this is so, then I would have to tell you that this whole thread is pointless.
There's nothing philosophical about it. I am talking about the fact that I take the bible literally. I don't see it as a book of stories or myths... as you do.
Quote:hephzibah wrote: The point being that "truth" is different things to different people. The contents of the bible are "truth" to me. They are not "truth" to you. Therefore, my truth is not your truth.
Truth is truth
lie is lie no matter what the situation is. Why can't you just stop this nonsense once and for all?
Quote:hephzibah wrote: Truth itself cannot be the same for everyone.
If you are living in the same "reality" as I am
it is.
Jason, what reality do you live in anyway? I'm curious... BTW you just proved my point by implying my reality could be different than yours. Thank you very much. In other words, what you consider the truth of your reality is not the same thing I consider the truth of mine. Hence... two people living in separate truths.
Quote:hephzibah wrote: If it were then this world would not be what it is today.
And I have a question for you (not sure if you will be able to answer it). It's simple though:
Why does the world appear insane
logically speaking? Can you answer this question, my dear? It's simple.
I never said it appears insane.
Quote:hephzibah wrote: People do things in the name of "truth", whatever that is to them, every day.
But what "truth" are you talking about
a made up "truth"
or a real "truth"
like "you killed my father, and I'm gonna kill you for it"? What is it? There are two types of prepositions that I'm dealing with here: the true proposition of an event and the symbolic one.
There's no symbolic proposition in what I'm talking about concerning the bible. The bible is a book. Regardless of who it was written by, whether anyone else see's it as being true... it is a book a wide spread book that you can get just about anywhere... how in the world could you consider my suggestion symbolic?
Quote:hephzibah wrote: However, just because they see something as being "truth" does not mean that is "truth" to me, or something I would do.
Again with the nonsense.
Quote:hephzibah wrote: Can I string you up by your toe nails yet? Cause I'd sure like to right about now!
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I have no idea what you are talking about (that's no surprise to me, really).
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. :wink: Hehehe....
