"why does the world appear to be insane?" is a personal bias; not evereybody sees the world as insane.
I said "appear to be insane". I didn't say that it is insane.
That's what others who don't see it as insane will say; "the world does not appear to be insane."
"Appear" is the conditional verb that makes it a personal bias.
I've discussed this matter on many threads, and my views seem to have no effect on others. Rough on the ego. I'll only suggest, and let others ignore or consider, that words like truth and reality point to experience. As Hap says, words are more than just words (but in a way language points only to itself. That's another question). When I say "truth", I'm pointing to propositions (i.e., truth statements)" purporting to be accurate descriptions of the nature of Reality." When I say "Reality", I'm pointing to something too large, subtle and complex to be targeted precisely. Indeed, it can only be intuited, and that is always problematical. So, what we do in making truth statements is to describe "aspects" of reality.
JLN, I agree with your last statement. Even language is limited to how words are defined and interpreted. There are many foreign words that cannot be translated into English; I've heard it often enough to know it's a truism.
JLNobody wrote:.....my views seem to have no effect on others.
My dog knows the truth of liver snacks and I told her all about your views :wink:
In truth, I like your views.
I was referring in the logical sense.
Chum, You are a scholar through and through; teach my dog too, will ya?
I got another question for you guys.
What makes a definition a good definition?
Here is a possible truth to consider: you cannot eliminate the enemy for it is us.
I'm only stressing that we should not confuse "truth" and "reality." People often talk about the Truth with a capital T as if it were Reality (that which is the case). Truths are accurate statements about aspects of reality. There. I've done it myself: I've made a proposition about the nature/meanilng (i.e., most adequate definition) of a word.
Jason, as I see it, a logical conclusion can be VALID (the conclusion follows from the premise, whatever its value), but it need not be TRUE, i.e., an empirical proposition about certain properties, or relations between properties) of the world.
Wow. I leave for 8 hours and look at what happens!
Interesting responses.
Let's dispose of this one now:
It is absolutely true that all things are relative.
One might be able to discern Jesus' definition of truth by examining the teachings of those who charged him with sedition.
Hop on.
Chumly wrote:Here is a possible truth to consider: you cannot eliminate the enemy for it is us.
Didn't you quit drinking?
JLNobody wrote:
Jason, as I see it, a logical conclusion can be VALID (the conclusion follows from the premise, whatever its value), but it need not be TRUE, i.e., an empirical proposition about certain properties, or relations between properties) of the world.
I thought this was clear to you guys.
Since JLNobody bothered himself to explain the obvious, I would like this question to be answered:
Why does the world appear insane, in the logical sense of course?
Jason Proudmoore wrote:Chumly wrote:Here is a possible truth to consider: you cannot eliminate the enemy for it is us.
Didn't you quit drinking?
I did not know I started, how did you discover this truth?
Chumly wrote:Jason Proudmoore wrote:Chumly wrote:Here is a possible truth to consider: you cannot eliminate the enemy for it is us.
Didn't you quit drinking?
I did not know I started, how did you discover this truth?
It's a sober thing. :wink:
Jason Proudmoore wrote:Why does the world appear insane, in the logical sense of course?
Because there is no meaning... We never really know what the hell we're talking about. (At least I sure don't!)
Jason Proudmoore wrote:Chumly wrote:Jason Proudmoore wrote:Chumly wrote:Here is a possible truth to consider: you cannot eliminate the enemy for it is us.
Didn't you quit drinking?
I did not know I started, how did you discover this truth?
It's a sober thing. :wink:
Sobering over a 6 pack already!
echi wrote:Jason Proudmoore wrote:Why does the world appear insane, in the logical sense of course?
Because there is no meaning... We never really know what the hell we're talking about. (At least I sure don't!)
What do you mean by "there is no meaning"? Words have meaning, echi.
Jason,
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How is it that the word "truth" has no meaning? In what way can a rational person think of such nonsense?
Ok then, since you are obviously smarter than me, why don't you give me an example of truth free of context?
Once you utterly fail at that maybe you will understand what I am talking about.
