Bush warns Iran on Israel

America and Israel will certainly accept endless war before they admit there are bonafide reasons why they're so hated.

Interesting ..... It seems that Tony Blair has informed Bush that Great Britian will have no part of an invasion or attack on Iran.

Wonder what the little dictator will have to say about that?

Just need to clear up, how his "wipe Israel off the map" quote was misinterpreted.

umm...context?

Mahmoud Ahmedinejad was addressing thousands of students at (of all things) a World Without Zionism Conference.

Aljazeera aren't too clear on the translation to begin with, but then give more detail on the speech (initial story being carried by Associated Press).

In referring to the recent suicide bomb in Hadelera, he said "there is no doubt that the new wave in Palestine will soon wipe off this disgraceful blot from the face of the Islamic world...The fighting in Palestine is a war between the (whole) Islamic nation and the world of arrogance".

The US had supported the pro-WB/IMFer Ali Akhbar Hafshani Rafsanjani, and when Ahmedinejad won with a more populist message, the US magnanimously tried to link him to the hostage-taking at the US Embassy in Teheran (1979-1981).

In saying what he did, Ahmedinejad was doing something unusual for a politician - simultaneously sticking to his principles (honestly), and standing by Iranian government policy.

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=9898

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If you're wondering why the "disgraceful blot" quote was not mentioned in the main western media, well it was.

Why would the Zionist controlled media take it out of context? to play the holocaust card



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Ahmadinejad: Wipe Israel off map
Wednesday 26 October 2005, 19:03 Makka Time, 16:03 GMT

Ahmadinejad addressed students at a conference

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has openly called for Israel to be wiped off the map.


"The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world," the president told a conference in Tehran on Wednesday, entitled The World without Zionism.

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land," he said.

"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, referring to Iran's revolutionary leader Ayat Allah Khomeini.

His comments were the first time in years that such a high-ranking Iranian official has called for Israel's eradication, even though such slogans are still regularly used at government
rallies.

Call for unity

Addressing about 4000 students gathered in an Interior Ministry conference hall, Ahmadinejad also called for Palestinian unity, resistance and a point "where the annihilation of the Zionist regime will come".


Khatami was in favour of 'dialogue among civilisations'

"The Islamic umma (community) will not allow its historic enemy to live in its heartland," he said in the fiery speech that centred on a "historic war between the oppressor and the world of Islam".

The term "oppressor" is used by the clerical government to refer to the United States.

"We should not settle for a piece of land," he said of Israel's pullout from the Gaza Strip.

"Anyone who signs a treaty which recognises the entity of Israel means he has signed the surrender of the Muslim world," Ahmadinejad said.

"Any leaders in the Islamic umma who recognise Israel face the wrath of their own people."

Major change

Ahmadinejad, a veteran of Iran's hardline Revolutionary Guards, took office in August after scoring a landslide win in a June presidential election.

His tone represents a major change from that of former president Mohammad Khatami, whose favoured topic was "dialogue among civilisations" and who led an effort to improve Iran's relations with the West.

But Ahmadinejad instead spoke of a "historic war".

"It dates backs hundreds of years. Sometimes Islam has advanced. Sometimes nobody was winning. Unfortunately over the past 300 years, the world of Islam has been in retreat," he lamented.

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land"

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad President of Iran

"One hundred years ago the last trench of Islam fell, when the oppressors went towards the creation the Zionist regime. It is using it as a fort to spread its aims in the heart of the Islamic world."

In September, Bahrain announced it was ending a decades-old law banning trade ties with Israel. Earlier this month, Qatar said it was donating US$6 million to help build a soccer stadium for a mixed Arab-Jewish team, the first such financial assistance by an Arab state for any town inside Israel.

Unprecedented steps

The modest but unprecedented steps were seen as a response to Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip in September. Nevertheless, Ahmadinejad said, "There is no doubt that the new wave (of attacks) in Palestine will soon wipe off this disgraceful blot (Israel) from the face of the Islamic world."

"Ahmadinejad has clearly declared the doctrine of his government. He is returning Iran to the revolutionary goals it was pursuing in the 1980s," said Mohammad Sadeq Hosseini, an expert on Middle Eastern affairs.

"By these comments, Ahmadinejad is committing himself to those goals. He is also sending the message that his government won't back down."

Israeli response

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev issued a vague response. "Today, Israelis heard two extremists speak openly about destroying the Jewish state. One was the new president of Iran, and the other was the leader of Hamas, Mahmoud Zahar.

Scott McClellan said US fears have proved accurate

"And it appears the problem with these extremists is that they followed through on their violent declarations with violent actions."

The United States said Ahmadinejad's remarks proved the accuracy of Washington's fears about Iran's contentious nuclear programme.

"I think it reconfirms what we have been saying about the regime in Iran. It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear intentions," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

Ebrahim Yazdi, a former Iranian foreign minister, said Ahmadinejad's remarks harmed Iran.

"Such comments provoke the international community against us. It's not to Iran's interests at all. It's harmful to Iran to make such a statement," he said.

He said the comments gave Israel justification for urging the world to take a tougher stand against Iran and refer its nuclear programme to the UN Security Council for possible sanctions.
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Have you got a source for that maggs or is it just how it looks?

Re: Bush warns Iran on Israel

The invasion of Iraq was directly to defend the US, since WMD in the hands of an evil madman would not have been a good situation for us or anyone else. Please don't repeat the imbecilic mantra that there were no WMD, because the fact that they were finally gone from Iraq is only known for sure now because we invaded. As for Israel, there's nothing wrong with protecting friends, or even just protecting the the innocent. I guess you were against the war to liberate Kuwait from Iraq too.

Brandon9000


Wrong!

(JTA) - Franks: Threat on Israel justified pre-emption

http://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/a.../world/aaa.txt

The threat of a missile attack on Israel was one reason justifying a pre-emptive strike against Iraq, Gen. Tommy
Franks said. Franks, who retired from the U.S. military last year after leading the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, said he supported the Bush administration policy of pre-emption. "The reason we could not afford to give up time is because we wanted the water infrastructure to remain in place," Franks said Monday at the National Press Club. "We wanted the oil infrastructure in Iraq to remain in place. We did not want to subject ourselves and Israel to the potential consequence of a long-range missile being fired into Tel Aviv or Jerusalem." Franks also said Israel's conflict with the Palestinians fuels
anti-U.S. resentment in the Middle East.

War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser

http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=23083

WASHINGTON, Mar 29 (IPS) - IPS uncovered the remarks by Philip Zelikow, who is now the executive director of the body set up to investigate the terrorist attacks on the United States in September 2001 -- the 9/11 commission -- in which he suggests a prime motive for the invasion just over one year ago was to eliminate a threat to Israel, a staunch U.S. ally in the Middle East.

Ahmadinejad did not call for the physical destruction of that bit of land currently called Israel. He wants regime change in Israel just as the US wants regime change in a whole bunch of middle east countries.
Lots of people including many Jews do not support the zionist regime in Israel. Does that make them anti semitic? I think the zionist experiment has failed. Its time to form a binational state in Palestine with citizen rights guaranteed by the UN.

Sorry, correcting one of the links :

http://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/articles/2004/08/10/news/world/aaa.txt

I don't see how you can believe that, Steve, if you read the accounts of his speech.

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Britain breaks with the US over Iran

By Patrick Seale

DUBAI: Britain has told the United States that it will not take part in any armed action against Iran's nuclear sites, according to diplomatic sources in London. Already facing huge public criticism for his participation in the Iraq war, Prime Minister Tony Blair is seeking to distance himself from America's belligerent rhetoric towards Iran.

Blair knows he would probably not survive the political storm if Britain joined in an attack on Iran. The concern in Whitehall, however, is that the Bush administration, egged on by Israel and its powerful friends in the United States, risks developing an unstoppable momentum towards war a war in which Britain clearly wants no part.

There is a real fear that if Iran refuses to yield to pressure either by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) or by the UN Security Council to which Iran was formally referred on March 8 then the US would be left with no other option than to strike. The US may indeed have boxed itself into a corner by its threats, which Iran has scornfully rejected.

The view in Whitehall is that if America attacks Iran, it will have to do so alone or with Israel. In private discussions, British officials have made clear that any sort of military campaign against Iran would be "madness".

Despite its close alliance with the US, British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has departed publicly from aggressive statements by senior US officials. He has ruled out military action by Britain against Iran as "inconceivable".

Last week, Britain announced it was pulling 800 men out of Iraq one tenth of its force there. This is seen as a signal that Britain is seeking to limit its involvement in America's wars, rather than take on additional commitments....................


..... this was forwarded to me by a Brit friend. Needless to say we have not heard a discouraging word from George's propaganda machine in this country.

Oops.... rather long article. Here's the link:

http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/mar2006-daily/18-03-2006/world/w3.htm

It was just bluster to his student audience.

Thanks for the source Maggs. From here it doesnt seem possible for Blair to survive joining in any attack on Iran. But then I thought that about Iraq.