1
   

Afghan citizen faces death penalty for converting to Christi

 
 
Reply Mon 20 Mar, 2006 02:53 pm
An Afghani man is on trial for criminal charges punishable by death related to his conversion from Islam to Christianity over 16 years ago while working for a Christian aid organization in Pakistan.

Quote:
http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/picture/0,,280713,00.jpg
Abdul Rahman, whose case is being seen as a test for religious freedom in the post-Taleban era (Ariana Television/AP)

Afghan faces death penalty for Christian faith

By Tim Albone of The Times in Kabul


An Afghan who has renounced his Islamic faith for Christianity faces the death penalty under Afghan law in a throwback to the brutal Taleban regime.

Abdul Rahman, 41, is being prosecuted for an "attack on Islam", for which the punishment under Afghanistan's draft constitution, is death by hanging.

The charge comes as Britain prepares to send 3,300 nominally Christian paratroopers to stabilise the troubled south of the country.

Mr Rahman converted to Christianity over 14 years ago, but his situation was bought to the attention of the authorities after he tried to gain custody of his daughters who had been living with their grandparents. His parents then denounced him as a convert and on arrest he was found to be carrying a Bible.

"The Attorney General is emphasising he should be hung. It is a crime to convert to Christianity from Islam. He is teasing and insulating his family by converting," Judge Alhaj Ansarullah Mawlawy Zada, who will be trying his case, told The Times.

"He was a Muslim for 25 years more than he has been a Christian. We will request him to become a Muslim again. In your country two women can marry I think that is very strange. In this country we have the perfect constitution, it is Islamic law and it is illegal to be a Christian and it should be punished," said the judge.

If Judge Zada, who is head of the Primary Court, passes the death penalty under Afghan law, Mr Rahman still has two avenues of appeal, the Provincial Court and the Supreme Court. The death penalty then has to be ratified by President Hamid Karzai.

The first sitting of Mr Rahman's case was recently held and Judge Zada said a verdict will be reached within two months. The case is being viewed as a test of religious freedom in post-Taleban Afghanistan.

"It's a case of religious freedom. It's a real challenge for the the judiciary system here and highlights the problems between Sharia (Islamic) and statutory law," said a western human rights expert in Kabul.

"The constitution says Islam is the the religion of Afghanistan, yet it also mentions the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and article 18 specifically forbids this kind of recourse. It really highlights the problem the judiciary system faces."

The prosecutor, Abdul Wasi, has said he would drop charges if Mr Rahman converted back to Islam but that he had so far refused to do so.

"He would be forgiven if he changed back, but he said he was a Christian and would always remain one. We are Muslims and becoming a Christian is against our laws. He must get the death penalty," said Mr Wasi.

Repeated request for an interview with Mr Rahman were rejected by prison officials who said the Justice Ministry had threatened to sack them if an interview was granted.

One of his cell mates Sayad Miakhel, 30, told The Times: "He is standing by his words he will not become a Muslim again, he has been a Christian for over 14 years. It is what he believes in."

"His father complained to authorities after he said he wanted to take his daughters abroad. He is an intelligent man and his faith belongs to him."

Mr Miakhel said the conditions in prison were basic with 50 men to a cell made for 15. "We can only shower once a month. The food here is very basic, every few days we will have some meat."

"Most prisoners have food bought to them by there families, none of Abdul's family have been to visit, I am not sure how he is eating. He seems depressed, he keeps looking up to the sky, to God," said Mr Miakhel

Khalylullah Safi, 31, another cellmate, said: "We know in England you can choose your religion but in Afghanistan it is different. I have to be careful what I say as I am a prisoner."

In 2001 only months before US-led forces over threw the Taleban regime eight western aid workers were arrested for allegedly preaching Christianity, they were later released unharmed.
Source
  • Topic Stats
  • Top Replies
  • Link to this Topic
Type: Discussion • Score: 1 • Views: 1,941 • Replies: 46
No top replies

 
dlowan
 
  1  
Reply Mon 20 Mar, 2006 02:56 pm
Shocked
0 Replies
 
xingu
 
  1  
Reply Mon 20 Mar, 2006 04:40 pm
And Muslims wonder why Westerners have no respect for them.
0 Replies
 
roger
 
  1  
Reply Mon 20 Mar, 2006 06:53 pm
I seriously worry about the kids becoming muslims because they feel a need to belong to something.
0 Replies
 
revel
 
  1  
Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 07:18 am
I wondered if anyone was discussing this. It's sad but not surprising since it was spelled out in their constitution in which not long ago Bush hailed as:

Quote:
We're making good progress, we really are, in parts of the world. Afghanistan has now got a constitution which talks about freedom of religion and talks about women's rights. I don't think anybody would have dreamed that would have been possible prior to September the 11th, and now it's a reality. Democracy is flourishing. The world is better off because of that.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040123-2.html

The problems in the constitution:

http://www.uscirf.gov/mediaroom/press/2003/november/11042003_afghanistan.html
0 Replies
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 07:48 am
Well, they've signed international treaties re freedom of religion.

This is quite a big theme here in Europe, and especially in Germany since he converted during his time here. (Some conserbatives suggested that we should withdraw our troops from Afghanistan - which we obviously won't, but diplomatic talks are being done on highest levels = foreign ministers.)
0 Replies
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 12:12 pm
Afghanistan Supreme Court Judge Ansarullah Mawlavizada said Thursday that Afghan courts will not bow to outside pressure in the case of Abdur Rahman, who has been jailed for converting to Christianity and who could face the death penalty under Islamic sharia law [background] if convicted of apostasy.

Mawlavizada said that the "judiciary will act independently and neutrally" and said that the court's will follow the country's constitution [text], but stressed that Afghanista is an Islamic country.
Mawlavizada said that a court will begin to consider Rahman's case in the next several days and noted that if a court sentences Rahman to death, the sentence would have to be upheld by Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

President Bush today for the first time called the case "deeply troubling" [transcript], saying he was concerned "that a country we helped liberate would hold a person to account because they chose a particular religion over another."

From Reuters: Afghan judiciary says won't bow to convert pressure
0 Replies
 
blacksmithn
 
  1  
Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 12:19 pm
And these are our allies in the war on terror. How comforting...
0 Replies
 
xingu
 
  1  
Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 12:29 pm
So much for spreading democracy and freedom of religion in the Middle East.
0 Replies
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 12:47 pm
blacksmithn wrote:
And these are our allies in the war on terror. How comforting...


Well, must something true about it - only now the USA reacts (started in Europe already last week).
0 Replies
 
blacksmithn
 
  1  
Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 12:56 pm
Frankly, I find every religion faintly repugnant and inherently unbelievable. It depresses me that someone would want to kill (or die) for what appears to be a set of fairytales.
0 Replies
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 12:59 pm
I just want to add that Iraq's interim constitution, passed under the U.S.-led occupation, makes Islam "a source of legislation" as well and stipulates that no law may "contradict the universally agreed tenets of Islam."

This and the Afghganian constitution
Quote:
Article Three Ch. 1, Art. 3
In Afghanistan, no law can be contrary to the sacred religion of Islam and the values of this Constitution.

were and are no secrets - it can and could be read online ... from the very first day onwards (re Afghanistan: since the first Afghanistan conference in Bonn-Bad Godesberg/Germany 2001) ...
0 Replies
 
xingu
 
  1  
Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 01:11 pm
In the Muslim religion this man cannot be executed for insulting the Muslim religion if he is determined to be insane. In order to appease the U.S. and save face they have declared him insane and unable to stand trial.
0 Replies
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 01:27 pm
You've got a source for that? I'd read already over the weekend that some think this to be most "elegant" solution, but I didn't know, it already happened.
0 Replies
 
ehBeth
 
  1  
Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 03:27 pm
This is a variant of what I read in the subway paper this morning

Quote:
Prosecutor: Afghan Convert May Be Insane
KABUL, March 22, 2006 -- An Afghan prosecutor says a man facing the death penalty for converting from Islam to Christianity may be insane.
Abdul Rahman, who became a Christian 16 years ago, could be executed if convicted on charges of rejecting Islam. But prosecutor Sarinwal Zamari told the Associated Press that questions have been raised about Rahman's mental fitness.

A religious adviser to President Hamid Karzai Moayuddin Baluch said if Rahman is found mentally unfit, authorities would have to drop the
case.

The U.S. and other countries have voiced concern over the case and urged Afghanistan to uphold religious freedom.



link
The Canadian press has been reporting this <Reuters source>

Quote:
OTTAWA (Reuters) - Afghan President Hamid Karzai has assured Canada that a man facing possible execution for converting to Christianity will not be put to death, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said on Thursday.

Harper called Karzai on Wednesday to express his concern over the case of Abdur Rahman, who an Afghan judge said had been jailed for converting from Islam to Christianity and could face death if he refused to become a Muslim again.

"He (Karzai) certainly conveyed to me that we don't have to worry about any such eventual outcome. He had already spoken prior to my call to the attorney-general of Afghanistan about dealing with the situation," Harper told a news conference.

"President Karzai has assured me that what's alarmed most of us will be worked out quickly," he added, saying he had every reason to believe in the assurances.



<snip>

Quote:
An Afghan judge dealing with the case said on Thursday that the judiciary would not bow to outside pressure over the eventual fate of Rahman, who has not yet been charged. In the past, death sentences have had to be upheld by the president.

"What it does underscore is the fact that all of Afghanistan's institutions are very fragile," said Harper.



link
0 Replies
 
detano inipo
 
  1  
Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 08:22 am
We may have chased the Taliban out of office, but little has changed since then. It is not easy to overturn centuries of archaic laws.
The propaganda slogans about bringing democracy to primitive countries are hollow mantras.
............................
Afghanistan's Democratic Deficiency

A few caricatures in a Danish newspaper caused bloody riots in the Muslim world. But now an Afghan man has been sentenced to death for converting to Christianity. Afghanistan has told the West it should mind its own business. Come again?

True, the Taliban have withdrawn into the southern part of country and into the region around its border with Pakistan. But radical Islam has remained. Even today, outside of Kabul, few women would dare to step onto the street without a veil. In fact, the veiled women one sees on the streets are privileged -- since most women are not allowed to even leave the house at all. The presence of the German army in Kabul has not changed the fact that women are being denied basic human rights in Afghanistan, just as in many other parts of the Islamic world.

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,407493,00.html
0 Replies
 
xingu
 
  1  
Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 10:25 am
Looks as if Rahman got off.

No execution.

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,407715,00.html
0 Replies
 
au1929
 
  1  
Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 10:49 am
The ugliness of Islam on display.
0 Replies
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 11:59 am
xingu wrote:


Well, that's referring to yesterday, when Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said that he had received assurance from President Karzai that Mr Rahman would not be executed.


BBC (one hour old)
Quote:
The Afghan government says it is up to the judiciary to decide Abdul Rahman's fate.

But, the Afghan judiciary is dominated by religious conservatives, and many feel it will be difficult for the president and the government to confront the judiciary, the BBC's Sanjoy Majumder in Kabul says.

The bigger problem confronting the president, however, may be that an overwhelming number of ordinary Afghans appear to believe Mr Rahman has erred and deserves to be executed, he says.


reuters, two hours ago
Quote:
Several clerics raised the issue during weekly sermons in Kabul on Friday, and there was little sympathy for Rahman.

"We respect all religions, but we don't go into the British embassy or the American embassy to see what religion they are following," said cleric Enayatullah Baligh at Kabul's main mosque.

"We won't let anyone interfere with our religion, and he should be punished," he said.
0 Replies
 
detano inipo
 
  1  
Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2006 04:09 pm
They might let him go and be killed by some religious nuts on the street.
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

 
  1. Forums
  2. » Afghan citizen faces death penalty for converting to Christi
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.04 seconds on 10/05/2024 at 09:21:37