Obama '08?

I do not understand the personal insults here directed toward cyclops, although I have some suspicions, however for the sake of cyclops, I do not endorse those kinds of comments. I do not think they are helpful. I do endorse a sense of humor from time to time, but these comments seem to be over the top.

Back to Obama, I think his learning Spanish comments are not going to be helpful. He is simply trying to win the Spanish vote, Mexican vote, Latino vote, and of course it is getting huge because of illegals pouring into this country for the last couple of decades and longer. And it may work with them, but it is so transparently phony, it is sad, sad, sad.

I don't need Lord Obama lecturing us about learning Spanish, when the community he "organized" in Chicago has a miserable record of even passing regular English classes. I think he needs to pull the mote out of his own eye before lecturing the rest of us.

I agree that kids in school should learn at least one foreign language. When I went to school in prehistoric, yes Cyclo I said prehistoric, times I had learned italian from my grandparents. It was the only language grandma knew. I also studied latin, and spanish in school. That was 57 years ago. I haven't used any of my foreign languages since so I don't understand nor am i able understand any of them. It helped me at the time in school but is worthless to me now.

That over 80 percent of voters in the US doesn't want people to learn more than one language show how ignorant people in the US really are.

cicerone imposter wrote:

That over 80 percent of voters in the US doesn't want people to learn more than one language show how ignorant people in the US really are.

So now since that 80% doesnt agree with you, they are ignorant!!

It is just as likely that you are ignorant.

mysteryman wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:

That over 80 percent of voters in the US doesn't want people to learn more than one language show how ignorant people in the US really are.

So now since that 80% doesnt agree with you, they are ignorant!!

It is just as likely that you are ignorant.

I didn't get that from the article anyway. I got that a large percentage of Americans do not feel that it is NECESSARY (translate should be REQUIRED) to speak more than English but that English should be an uncompromisable requirement. I didn't get that they were opposed to people speaking more than one language.

The emphasis however was that Americans resent immigrants not being required to learn English and in fact, overtly or inadvertantly, they are too often being encouraged to not speak English or assimilate into American culture. They saw Obama's remarks as reinforcing that.

If that was my point, I would have made it my point, CI. I don't think you're even trying here.

Yall sure are grumpy. Any possibility yall could take a break from the bickering?
Going back a few pages, there was mention made of Obama and the "toothless" Nascar fans. Did you know that there is a precedent for that kind of campaign effort?

realjohnboy wrote:

Yall sure are grumpy. Any possibility yall could take a break from the bickering?
Going back a few pages, there was mention made of Obama and the "toothless" Nascar fans. Did you know that there is a precedent for that kind of campaign effort?

There is? Who? When? I'm not disputing it. I really want to know.

Foxfyre wrote:

realjohnboy wrote:

Yall sure are grumpy. Any possibility yall could take a break from the bickering?
Going back a few pages, there was mention made of Obama and the "toothless" Nascar fans. Did you know that there is a precedent for that kind of campaign effort?

There is? Who? When? I'm not disputing it. I really want to know.

Thanks for asking. When Mark Warner was running for Gov of VA about 5 years ago, he realized he had a problem. He was wealthy and from northern Virginia and a Democrat. A tough sell in the rural region of VA.

But a couple of the Nascar drivers supported him and campaigned for him
to the extent of putting his name on their cars. And Warner won.

He now is running to replace the retiring U.S. senator, John Warner (no relation) and he will win in a landslide, I predict.

You sophisticated voters may watch slick TV ads that really say nothing. We "toothless" rednecks watch cars go around with an ad.

Is there any difference?

That over 80 percent of voters in the US doesn't want people to learn more than one language show how ignorant people in the US really are.

rjb, I'm afraid you'll have to explain what "toothless Nascar fans" means?

cicerone imposter wrote:

rjb, I'm afraid you'll have to explain what "toothless Nascar fans" means?

I tried, ci, to find the reference to "toothless" NASCAR fans. It is about 10 pages back here on this thread. The inference, of course, is that folks who watch car races are southern rednecks, and, as you know, southern rednecks, like realjohnboy, are missing most of their teeth. And we are stupid.