cjhsa
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 02:07 pm
Yes, you must be retrained with liberal lies, lies, and more lies. Drink the damn Koolaid already fox!!!! Cheezits.
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Foxfyre
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 02:21 pm
cjhsa wrote:
Yes, you must be retrained with liberal lies, lies, and more lies. Drink the damn Koolaid already fox!!!! Cheezits.


LOL. I even started typing out a rebuttal until I reminded myself that I'm still working on learning a basic lesson for message boards: "Don't feed the trolls, argue with idiots, or engage in exercises in futility."

I suspect no amount of evidence would change some minds on this board even if you get past the few who see themselves as so much smarter than and so superior to those with a different point of view.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 02:25 pm
"Evidence?" ROFL
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Ethel2
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 02:27 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Yes, you must be retrained with liberal lies, lies, and more lies. Drink the damn Koolaid already fox!!!! Cheezits.


LOL. I even started typing out a rebuttal until I reminded myself that I'm still working on learning a basic lesson for message boards: "Don't feed the trolls, argue with idiots, or engage in exercises in futility."

I suspect no amount of evidence would change some minds on this board even if you get past the few who see themselves as so much smarter than and so superior to those with a different point of view.


Good lesson. I agree.

But it doesn't take intelligence to understand the immaturity of what you've written. It takes a non-literal, non-concrete thinking mind. In this case your words speak louder than your reported actions.

You and I disagree on this point. Enough said.
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Ticomaya
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 02:37 pm
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Deist; I'll get to you later, if I decide there's any hope in further trying to educate you.


Let me save you some time, O'Bill ... there is no hope.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 04:18 pm
Cause of mental illness (it's not based on "life choices"):

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/science-news/2008/scans-reveal-faulty-brain-wiring-caused-by-missing-genes.shtml
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Foxfyre
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 04:38 pm
There are many many different forms of mental illness. Most are not self inflicted but some are.

http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/mental-health-causes-mental-illness
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 04:42 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
There are many many different forms of mental illness. Most are not self inflicted but some are.

http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/mental-health-causes-mental-illness


Please identify for us those that are "self-inflicted" mental illness?
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 04:44 pm
From your link: ".... it is becoming clear through research that many of these conditions are caused by a combination of biological, psychological and environmental factors."

Where's the "self-inflicted?"
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Foxfyre
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 04:48 pm
You can read the information in the link as well as I can CI. I bet if you try even just a little bit you can figure it out all by yourself.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 04:50 pm
I already did; it identifies the causes of mental illness. I want you to identify for us which ones are self-inflicted? Name one if you can?
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Foxfyre
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 04:56 pm
Many mental illnesses result from exposure to certain toxins, as a result of substance abuse, as a result of poor nutrition, as a result of choice to stay in an intolerable situation, etc. When the person had a choice in exposure to those things that trigger mental illness, the illness, while unexpected, is nevertheless self inflicted. Of course mental illness that is hereditary or results from activities of others who had control or from other causes over which a person had no control is not self inflicted.

Try this link. Maybe you'll understand it better:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mental-illness/HQ01079
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Ethel2
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 06:02 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
There are many many different forms of mental illness. Most are not self inflicted but some are.

http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/mental-health-causes-mental-illness


Most of our problems are self inflicted. That's not the question. How able we are to do otherwise is the real issue. Most of us need help some of the time. Some much more than others. It's an over simplification, I know but I'm hungry and want to go eat dinner.
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Ethel2
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 06:04 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Many mental illnesses result from exposure to certain toxins, as a result of substance abuse, as a result of poor nutrition, as a result of choice to stay in an intolerable situation, etc. When the person had a choice in exposure to those things that trigger mental illness, the illness, while unexpected, is nevertheless self inflicted. Of course mental illness that is hereditary or results from activities of others who had control or from other causes over which a person had no control is not self inflicted.

Try this link. Maybe you'll understand it better:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mental-illness/HQ01079


Why do people expose themselves to toxins or any self destructive behavior? That's the question.
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Foxfyre
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 07:29 pm
Lola wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
There are many many different forms of mental illness. Most are not self inflicted but some are.

http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/mental-health-causes-mental-illness


Most of our problems are self inflicted. That's not the question. How able we are to do otherwise is the real issue. Most of us need help some of the time. Some much more than others. It's an over simplification, I know but I'm hungry and want to go eat dinner.


Not an over simplification at all. I think none of us are 100% self sufficient nor can any of us say that we never need help. Sometimes we cannot solve our problem unless we are willing to ask for or accept available help. I think, however, that we can sometimes fail to see the harmful consequences in the "help" we offer.
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Foxfyre
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 07:33 pm
Lola wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Many mental illnesses result from exposure to certain toxins, as a result of substance abuse, as a result of poor nutrition, as a result of choice to stay in an intolerable situation, etc. When the person had a choice in exposure to those things that trigger mental illness, the illness, while unexpected, is nevertheless self inflicted. Of course mental illness that is hereditary or results from activities of others who had control or from other causes over which a person had no control is not self inflicted.

Try this link. Maybe you'll understand it better:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mental-illness/HQ01079


Why do people expose themselves to toxins or any self destructive behavior? That's the question.


Sometimes it is conditioning or training in a destructive environment. Sometimes it is by accident or ignorance or immaturity or curiosity. Sometimes it is illusions of invincibility and an "I'll get away with it" mentality. And sometimes it is something more intentionally destructive or rebellious.

It is because of all these variables that I think a one-size fits all government program will usually not be all that effective and efficient in dealing with it.
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H2O MAN
 
  1  
Mon 9 Jun, 2008 07:40 pm
http://blogs.indystar.com/varvelblog/06062008.jpg
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woiyo
 
  1  
Tue 10 Jun, 2008 06:16 am
Obama is another in the long line of tax and spend liberals .

He supports a Windfall Profit tax on Oil Companies??? Jimmy Carter tried that and it was a disaster. Why is he not focusing on Detroit ?

He supports increase in the Capital Gains and Dividend income tax. Well there goes everyones 401K!!

He supports increasing the Corporate Tax Rate. Yep, that will create new jobs!

Increasing Social Security Cap - OK. I agree with that one!

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06102008/news/nationalnews/o___as_in_oil_tax_hike_114862.htm

His inexperience is showing. Nothing creative here. Raising taxes is easy for the Democrats to sell since simpletons will agree with this.
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Thomas
 
  1  
Tue 10 Jun, 2008 06:24 am
Just overheard McCain on MSNBC: "Obama says I"m running for George Bush's third term. I think he's running for Jimmy Carter's second." Once more, the "leader we can believe in" is reacting to Obama slogans instead of acting of his own initiative. If he keeps that up, Obama's campaign is looking pretty good.

Good for Obama.
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woiyo
 
  1  
Tue 10 Jun, 2008 06:40 am
Thomas wrote:
Just overheard McCain on MSNBC: "Obama says I"m running for George Bush's third term. I think he's running for Jimmy Carter's second." Once more, the "leader we can believe in" is reacting to Obama slogans instead of acting of his own initiative. If he keeps that up, Obama's campaign is looking pretty good.

Good for Obama.


Agree. Wish he would not say thing like that. What McCain could have said was Obamas Windfall Profit Tax on Oil Companies reminds us of the failure of the Carter Administration.

That way, McCain will be enhancing his experience factor and showcasing Obamas inexperience.
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