teenyboone
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 08:12 am
Sozobe:
He was Classic, Obama! Wonderful! Hillary? Still living in a "pipe" dream! Still thinking she won something! She won, by a thread and the returns were 7 hours late, in a county Obama should have HAD! Think somethin's fishy? Smells from where I sit! The media, is STILL in her corner! THEY want HER now, NOT Obama, who is clearly beating her A$$! Game Changer, MY EYE!


sozobe wrote:
Damn, I wish I could have stayed up last night... anyone see Obama's speech? How was it?

This seems to have actually finally maybe have been a game-changer, instead of the slow creep we've had. Hillary on Friday:

Quote:
Today, Clinton stressed the importance of the North Carolina contest.

"This primary election on Tuesday is a game changer. This is going to make a huge difference in what happens going forward. The entire country - probably even a lot of the world is looking to see what North Carolina decides."


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/clinton-tuesday.html
Cool
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teenyboone
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 08:14 am
woiyo wrote:
kickycan wrote:
sozobe wrote:
This seems to have actually finally maybe have been a game-changer, instead of the slow creep we've had. Hillary on Friday:

Quote:
Today, Clinton stressed the importance of the North Carolina contest.

"This primary election on Tuesday is a game changer. This is going to make a huge difference in what happens going forward. The entire country - probably even a lot of the world is looking to see what North Carolina decides."


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/clinton-tuesday.html


Yeah, and now the game has changed. Now the game is, "Why can't Florida and Michigan count? It's not fair! Waah, waah, waah!!!"

Be prepared to hear that desperate bullshit whine for the next few weeks.


If these numbers are correct, Mrs. Bill Clinton can not even make that BS argument. I would love to see her try though!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

2008 Democratic Popular Vote

Popular Vote Count

State Date Obama Clinton Spread
Popular Vote Total 15,928,114 49.6% 15,216,337 47.3% Obama +711,777 +2.3%

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 16,262,198 49.6% 15,440,199 47.1% Obama +821,999 +2.5%

Popular Vote (w/FL) 16,504,328 48.7% 16,087,323 47.5% Obama +417,005 +1.2%

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 16,838,412 48.8% 16,311,185 47.2% Obama +527,227 +1.6%

Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)** 16,504,328 47.9% 16,415,632 47.6% Obama +88,696 +0.26%


I hear you, loud and clear!
:wink:
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 08:16 am
No; it's done. It's over. If for no other reason then the media decided last night that it was over.

My god

I can't wait for the general. I can't f*cking wait. If the Republicans think that they can win off of character assassination, they're idiots.

Stephanapolous reported today that s-d's are going to be coming out in batches for Obama to seal the deal.

Cycloptichorn
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teenyboone
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 08:32 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
No; it's done. It's over. If for no other reason then the media decided last night that it was over.

My god

I can't wait for the general. I can't f*cking wait. If the Republicans think that they can win off of character assassination, they're idiots.

Stephanapolous reported today that s-d's are going to be coming out in batches for Obama to seal the deal.

Cycloptichorn

I'm just so glad I'm not alone! I applaud your exuberance from the right coast! I'm in Central NJ!
Cool
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Thomas
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 08:37 am
joefromchicago wrote:
Lake County results are coming in.

Obama will win Indiana.

In other news, Dewey defeats Truman!
    [img]http://www.printsandphotos.com/Merchant2/images/fullsize/3/3265.jpg[/img]

Chicago must belong to some kind of parallel universe.
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teenyboone
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 08:43 am
Thomas wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
Lake County results are coming in.

Obama will win Indiana.

In other news, Dewey defeats Truman!
    [img]http://www.printsandphotos.com/Merchant2/images/fullsize/3/3265.jpg[/img]

Chicago must belong to some kind of parallel universe.

You took the words right out of my mouth!
Cool
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joefromchicago
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 08:44 am
My record for political prognostication remains unblemished by accuracy.
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teenyboone
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 08:52 am
joefromchicago wrote:
My record for political prognostication remains unblemished by accuracy.

As they say on MSNBC: "Tell me something, I don't know"!
Rolling Eyes
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Foxfyre
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 09:00 am
Latest word from the fringe areas is that Hillary has loaned herself some more money and is planning one last ditch meeting with the Super Delegates in an effort to salvage her chances for the nomination. There is mention of a 'nuclear option' but I haven't heard anybody explain exactly what that is.

But stay tuned. . . .
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okie
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 09:05 am
She still has the "scorched earth" card to play.
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joefromchicago
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 09:07 am
teenyboone wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
My record for political prognostication remains unblemished by accuracy.

As they say on MSNBC: "Tell me something, I don't know"!
Rolling Eyes

Excuse me, do I know you?
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 09:10 am
okie wrote:
She still has the "scorched earth" card to play.


No, she doesn't. And she never did.

This has never been anything but a fantasy.

Cycloptichorn
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okie
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 09:10 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
No; it's done. It's over. If for no other reason then the media decided last night that it was over.

My god

I can't wait for the general. I can't f*cking wait. If the Republicans think that they can win off of character assassination, they're idiots.

Stephanapolous reported today that s-d's are going to be coming out in batches for Obama to seal the deal.

Cycloptichorn

What does the media have to say about it? Are you claiming it is they that determines the outcome. Why have an election in November?
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 09:12 am
okie wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
No; it's done. It's over. If for no other reason then the media decided last night that it was over.

My god

I can't wait for the general. I can't f*cking wait. If the Republicans think that they can win off of character assassination, they're idiots.

Stephanapolous reported today that s-d's are going to be coming out in batches for Obama to seal the deal.

Cycloptichorn

What does the media have to say about it? Are you claiming it is they that determines the outcome. Why have an election in November?


The media in large part has continued Hillary's run far past any real ability for her to win. Getting them to admit that it is over is an important part of ending this thing.

Cycloptichorn
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sozobe
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 09:13 am
The "nuclear option" is getting Michigan and Florida seated somehow. The DNC rules and bylaws committee (? something like that) will be considering the case soon.

Oh that reminds me -- one thing I did see last night before having to turn off the TV is Donna Brazile all but outing herself as an Obama supporter. A republican dude, Alex something, had said something odious about Wright (I forget what, but I said "oh come ON" before I saw that Donna had jumped on him too; "Now that's just small, Alex." She was pretty peeved and continued that exchange for a while and then the moderator at the time tried to pin her down -- so, sure sounds like you're an Obama supporter...? And Donna was pretty wink-wink nudge-nudgey about it, though she didn't say anything definitive.

(Donna Brazile is an undeclared superdelegate -- though she's said a few times that she's not unDECIDED, just undeclared -- who is also on the DNC committee in question.)
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sozobe
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 09:15 am
I agree, Cycloptichorn.

Meanwhile, here's more on the "nuclear option":

Quote:
Tom Daschle, an Obama supporter, said in an interview today on MSNBC that undecided superdelegates would be more than "ticked" if the Clinton campaign tries to force the so-called "nuclear option" and encourages the Rules and Bylaws committee, which meets May 31st, to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates.

The former South Dakota senator said he was amazed at the number of undecided superdelegates that have called him in the last 24 hours saying that it would be an "absolute disaster."

Asked if the superdelegates would be "ticked" if the nuclear option were implemented he replied, "If we overturn what has happened in all these elections all over the country and do something like that, ticked is mild compared to the feeling I am getting from reports all over the country today."


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/05/983419.aspx
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sozobe
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 09:24 am
Breaking news... George McGovern (major Hillary supporter) is a) urging her to quit and b) endorsing Obama.

Whoo!
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woiyo
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 09:28 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
No; it's done. It's over. If for no other reason then the media decided last night that it was over.

My god

I can't wait for the general. I can't f*cking wait. If the Republicans think that they can win off of character assassination, they're idiots.

Stephanapolous reported today that s-d's are going to be coming out in batches for Obama to seal the deal.

Cycloptichorn


Lack of expierence should be McCains approach as the way to beat Obama. I think he will let the media and other loudmouths talk about "character assassination".
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sozobe
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 09:33 am
Just read this:

Quote:
We now find out that the Clintons loaned themselves another $6.4 million and that, according to Stephanopoulos,

    "More superdelegates will come out today for Barack Obama -they will come three, four, five at a time, and this nomination will be locked up."


Could this actually almost be over??!!
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Wed 7 May, 2008 09:34 am
woiyo wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
No; it's done. It's over. If for no other reason then the media decided last night that it was over.

My god

I can't wait for the general. I can't f*cking wait. If the Republicans think that they can win off of character assassination, they're idiots.

Stephanapolous reported today that s-d's are going to be coming out in batches for Obama to seal the deal.

Cycloptichorn


Lack of expierence should be McCains approach as the way to beat Obama. I think he will let the media and other loudmouths talk about "character assassination".


People don't vote for experienced leaders for President with any regularity.

In 1992 a less experienced Clinton beat Bush.

In '96 an arguably more experienced Dole lost.

In '00 a less experienced Bush beat Gore.

In '08 the less experienced candidate will win also. There is a massive level of unhappiness with the current administration, and the Republican candidate is promising to continue each and every program of that administration. This is not going to go well for them.

Cycloptichorn
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