Obama '08?

candidone1 wrote:

Fox isn't news it's propaganda.
Period.

It doesn't take very long to realize they are not "balanced." Only the neocons see it that way!

Fox is not the only news source nor the first one to report this latest turn of events. But by all means deflect the story to be another Fox bashing session. That's really useful after all.

Even letters to the editor in Salon recently have noted that Obama won't go on the record at length with anybody re any sticky wickets in his record That is his right of course. But it does little to calm any questions people might have about him.

Foxfyre wrote:

Fox is not the only news source nor the first one to report this latest turn of events. But by all means deflect the story to be another Fox bashing session. That's really useful after all.

Even letters to the editor in Salon recently have noted that Obama won't go on the record at length with anybody re any sticky wickets in his record That is his right of course. But it does little to calm any questions people might have about him.

Bill Clinton went on air with some Fox-esque chimp who sandbagged him--quite unfairly. Bill did fine, and I think Obama can handle any Foxite...but I fail to see why he'd go on air with someone or on a network notorious for being deceitful, biased, or that flat out lies at their convenience to further their agenda.

Even Obama realizes that Fox outshines the competition in ratings.

once again, the question is not the speech but was the speaker sincere or was it politics? the speech was incredible. ONLY time will tell if his actions match his speech.

once again, the question is not the speech but was the speaker sincere or was it politics? the speech was incredible. ONLY time will tell if his actions match his speech.

Hence, they love Fox.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

once again, the question is not the speech but was the speaker sincere or was it politics? the speech was incredible. ONLY time will tell if his actions match his speech.

Whether the speaker is sincere is very easy to determine. Bush lies, and he speaks as if he is "sincere." All one needs to do is do a little homework to see that Bush lies all the time - with his sincerity. Neocons define this as "mistakes," and not lying.

You can question Obama's sincerity all day long, because you'll never "get it."

The speech was typical Obama--competent, well designed, well delivered. The purpose of the speech was to calm the controversy swirling around his Pastor, however, and Obama failed to be explicit about where he disagreed with his controversial pastor. As I said before, he needs to specifically say that he could never "God da*m" America for instance, but rather he can only say "God bless America" for the opportunities it has given me or something to that effect.

THAT would have squashed the controvery and reassured the fence sitters.

That's a fair post, BpB.

Dare I say, that you've come around a bit on Obama? Just a little?

Cycloptichorn

Even letters to the editor in Salon recently have noted that Obama won't go on the record at length with anybody re any sticky wickets in his record That is his right of course. But it does little to calm any questions people might have about him.

Obama reassured his base but I am not sure (as of yet) he did much for those on the fence or who seem to go back and forth between Hillary and Obama depending on the current talk in the media. He is never going to please the Fox News crowd or other such like conservative news watchers/listeners.

He has already spoken about it and explained it enough; there is not much left to say accept to keep repeating it over and over again. People either accept it or they don't, but there is no need to keep going over it other than an effort to keep it going.

Obama's speech

It speaks for itself.

where his grandma has been relegated).

Sorry, old boy. Not going to play with you in such fora. You're rule book is from lawn bowling and mine from badminton.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

once again, the question is not the speech but was the speaker sincere or was it politics? the speech was incredible. ONLY time will tell if his actions match his speech.

The speech was typical Obama--competent, well designed, well delivered. The purpose of the speech was to calm the controversy swirling around his Pastor, however, and Obama failed to be explicit about where he disagreed with his controversial pastor.