Obama '08?

You call others racist yet you use an extremely racist term.

What does that make you?

What is 'racist' about enforcing American immigration law?

What 'race' are you referring to? How many 'races' do you suppose there to be?

Yep...

And of course he'd have a great deal more power as president than as a senator... especially a senator who is currently actively campaigning (and therefore less able to do the kind of politicking he's shown that he's good at).

He's pretty good at voting 'Present'. Maybe he should stay in the Senate.

Yes, A FLEA would believe what you believe.

To objective thinking Americans, Border Security is necessary to control immigration and ensure our freedom.

The economy is continuing to head down. Increasingly, I'm bumping into voices in the financial world who are speaking of something that could be reminiscent of the great depression. Here's Krugman today on near term political realities...


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/opinion/14krugman.html?hp

Bush, his party and the related interest groups which wish to retain political dominance will continue to deny or minimize the problem as long as they can, then switch to a strategy of blaming everyone but themselves. Even if all the blame perhaps can't be laid at their feet, they will accept none. They (the nutty Norquist crowd and the few who gain from such ideas) will demand more tax cuts to 'solve' the problem.

I think all of this is going to become, as Krugman suggests, a much larger component in the election than we expected. In the next months and then in the election, Bush and the Republicans are likely to suffer for it, along with much else.

The danger, from a dem political perspective, is that this situation could make the next president's first term even more of a nightmare. The propaganda will be ramped up to blame THAT president and his/her party (along with earlier presidents of the same party...so clinton and even carter will be mentioned - never Reagan, of course, who was The First-Plus-One-Half Coming).

But as the depression (along with huge income disparities, evidences of greed and selfishing unconcern for others) were fundamental components in the rationale for and the popularity of New Deal policies, this could lead to a serious turn of mind in america towards progressivism once again.

Obama Cuts Into Clinton's Delegate Lead Among Elected Officials
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And this is why I think he'll kick ass and take names...

GO GET 'EM OBAMA!

Hey, thanks, I hadn't seen that. I'm gonna copy and paste the 2nd half for people who don't follow links, though the first half is recommended for context:



He's skinny but he's tough.

By the way, this gives me an opportunity to reiterate something that I do think is important:

From early debates it became clear that Obama had to handle Hillary with kid gloves. He's been very, very careful with her since, and I think that's a reasonable precaution. But I think in debates or in any other kind of contest with McCain, he'd take those gloves off and you'll see a much tougher side on an ongoing basis.

say huh?



But Obama did campaign in Florida.... he ran over 1.3 million in ads and he had his followers sending out his "Democrat for a day" flyers. He may not have held one of his revivals in Florida but he damn sure campaigned. I know because I could not turn on one of our TV stations without being bombarded with his gawd awful ads. They may not have been in your part of the state but they were damn sure in N. Florida.

As for Michigan, he removed his name from the ballot because he knew he was going to lose there and he didn't want that loss in his column. TOUGH! Count the damn votes. The people of Michigan & Florida did not have a voice in these stupid rules. We held a legitimate primary it and should count.

Personally I think this is a Republican led hate mongering campaign anyway. It was a republican legislature in FL that changed the primary date. They knew it would create an uproar & they have made sure that it did.

Everyone in the Obama campaign whine about how unfair it will be to poor Obama. Well what could be more unfair than throwing out our votes and voting until we get the results that Obama wants? That is the bottom line in my opinion.

LMAO! I think Obama missed his calling. He's an actor!

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080313/LOCAL19/80313057/0/COLUMNISTS01

Re: say huh?


The DNC invalidated the votes in FL and MI. NOT the Obama campaign.

This entire post is a bunch of bullcrap. The Dem legislature in FL voted unanimously to move the election date; the MI Dems voted for it and the Dem Gov. signed the bill. There's no excuse.

FL and MI wanted to jump the gun, they got punished for doing so, and now Hillary supporters are bitching about it b/c they realize that without some sort of results from FL, Hillary cannot win the election. Where was this bitching earlier in the cycle? Why did Hillary sign a pledge not to participate in either state's campaign, say that they 'didn't matter' if she truly felt this way?

Opportunistic BS is all this is. It doesn't look like there's going to be a revote in FL, and most nobody cares about it 'cept the Clinton camp.

Cycloptichorn

Mrs. Bill Clinton will say and do anything to make sure she recieves what she feels she is entitled to.

'Jump the gun' ?

What does that mean?

Why does the National party leadership favor Iowa and New Hampshire over Florida and Michigan?

Are NH and IA so representative of the nation that their opinion must be the guide for the rest of us? I don't think so.

Why not just let the states decide when they want to hold their own primary?

Set a date, say Jan 3, as the first possible primary day and let the states decide. If 25 states wanted their primaries on Jan 3 to be 'first in the nation' , who cares?

The National party would be much better off spending their time convincing the state parties to drop caucuses in favor of primaries IMHO. More participation ooooooooooooooopppppppppssss that's why they don't do it, they lose control of the process.

Re: say huh?


Obama signed the same pledge, did he not? And kept his name on the ballot in FL?

He participated as well.

Re: say huh?


It was too late to take the names off the ballots in FL when the pledge was signed; that's why all their names were on it, and there was no move to remove any of them.

Damn those facts, destroying your argument so easily!

Cycloptichorn

Re: say huh?



If it was too late to remove the names leaving Obama faultless... then Hill must also be faultless yes?

Obama and the Minister
By RONALD KESSLER
March 14, 2008

In a sermon delivered at Howard University, Barack Obama's longtime minister, friend and adviser blamed America for starting the AIDS virus, training professional killers, importing drugs and creating a racist society that would never elect a black candidate president.

The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., pastor of Mr. Obama's Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, gave the sermon at the school's Andrew Rankin Memorial Chapel in Washington on Jan. 15, 2006.

"We've got more black men in prison than there are in college," he began. "Racism is alive and well. Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run. No black man will ever be considered for president, no matter how hard you run Jesse [Jackson] and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body."

Mr. Wright thundered on: "America is still the No. 1 killer in the world. . . . We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns, and the training of professional killers . . . We bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children while trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and Ghadhafi . . . We put [Nelson] Mandela in prison and supported apartheid the whole 27 years he was there. We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God."

His voice rising, Mr. Wright said, "We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic. . . . We care nothing about human life if the end justifies the means. . . ."

Concluding, Mr. Wright said: "We started the AIDS virus . . . We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . ."

Considering this view of America, it's not surprising that in December Mr. Wright's church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan for lifetime achievement. In the church magazine, Trumpet, Mr. Wright spoke glowingly of the Nation of Islam leader. "His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening," Mr. Wright said of Mr. Farrakhan. "He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest."

After Newsmax broke the story of the award to Farrakhan on Jan. 14, Mr. Obama issued a statement. However, Mr. Obama ignored the main point: that his minister and friend had spoken adoringly of Mr. Farrakhan, and that Mr. Wright's church was behind the award to the Nation of Islam leader.

Instead, Mr. Obama said, "I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan. I assume that Trumpet magazine made its own decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree." Trumpet is owned and produced by Mr. Wright's church out of the church's offices, and Mr. Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive editor.

Meeting with Jewish leaders in Cleveland on Feb. 24, Mr. Obama described Mr. Wright as being like "an old uncle who sometimes will say things that I don't agree with." He rarely mentions the points of disagreement.

Mr. Obama went on to explain Mr. Wright's anti-Zionist statements as being rooted in his anger over the Jewish state's support for South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. As with his previous claim that his church gave the award to Mr. Farrakhan because of his work with ex-offenders, Mr. Obama appears to have made that up.

Neither the presentation of the award nor the Trumpet article about the award mentions ex-offenders, and Mr. Wright's statements denouncing Israel have not been qualified in any way. Mr. Obama nonetheless told the Jewish leaders that the award to Mr. Farrakhan "showed a lack of sensitivity to the Jewish community." That is an understatement.

As for Mr. Wright's repeated comments blaming America for the 9/11 attacks because of what Mr. Wright calls its racist and violent policies, Mr. Obama has said it sounds as if the minister was trying to be "provocative."

Hearing Mr. Wright's venomous and paranoid denunciations of this country, the vast majority of Americans would walk out. Instead, Mr. Obama and his wife Michelle have presumably sat through numerous similar sermons by Mr. Wright.

Indeed, Mr. Obama has described Mr. Wright as his "sounding board" during the two decades he has known him. Mr. Obama has said he found religion through the minister in the 1980s. He joined the church in 1991 and walked down the aisle in a formal commitment of faith.

The title of Mr. Obama's bestseller "The Audacity of Hope" comes from one of Wright's sermons. Mr. Wright is one of the first people Mr. Obama thanked after his election to the Senate in 2004. Mr. Obama consulted Mr. Wright before deciding to run for president. He prayed privately with Mr. Wright before announcing his candidacy last year.

Mr. Obama obviously would not choose to belong to Mr. Wright's church and seek his advice unless he agreed with at least some of his views. In light of Mr. Wright's perspective, Michelle Obama's comment that she feels proud of America for the first time in her adult life makes perfect sense.

Much as most of us would appreciate the symbolism of a black man ascending to the presidency, what we have in Barack Obama is a politician whose closeness to Mr. Wright underscores his radical record.

The media have largely ignored Mr. Obama's close association with Mr. Wright. This raises legitimate questions about Mr. Obama's fundamental beliefs about his country. Those questions deserve a clearer answer than Mr. Obama has provided so far.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545277093135111.html?mod=rss_opinion_main