spendius
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 06:35 pm
Roxie-

I know you did English at school for a long time but have you any idea of how meaningless that post is?
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Roxxxanne
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 06:36 pm
From Foxnews.com

Quote:
INDIANOLA, Iowa ?- Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., warned Democratic activists Sunday that the party must take a tougher stance on national security if it wants to succeed in the November elections.

"What Democrats have to do is to close the deal," said Obama, the keynote speaker at Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin's 29th annual steak fry. "We have got to show we have a serious agenda for change."



Obama! WEAK on national security!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 06:37 pm
Hillary Clinton's main talking point during this campaign seems to be her "35 years of experience." Let's take a look at some of the "major" ones she trying to take credit for.

ON CHILDREN'S HEALTH CARE:
THE BOTTOM LINE: The record suggests Clinton did indeed lobby for children's health coverage but that many others were responsible as well. And it also shows that her husband nearly killed the idea before it ever got off the ground.

ON NORTHERN IRELAND:

THE BOTTOM LINE: Clinton played a role in hearing the concerns of Irish women left out of the peace process, and in encouraging them to put pressure on their countrymen to pursue negotiations. But that does not mean she rolled up her sleeves and conducted or led the talks that resulted in the 1998 Good Friday Agreement.

MACEDONIAN REFUGEES:
THE BOTTOM LINE: In the case of Macedonia, Clinton engaged in personal diplomacy that brought about change. But securing the return of American business partners is not the same as the opening of borders to thousands of refugees. That accomplishment was a result of broader U.S. and European efforts during the war.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 06:41 pm
Obama on Port Security (a bigger threat than Los Morenos)

Obama, Clinton urge Wal-Mart to support port security measure
(6 comments; last comment posted March 3, 2007 06:52 pm) print | email this story


By MARCUS KABEL | Associated Press
March 2, 2007
BENTONVILLE, Arkansas (AP) - Democratic presidential rivals Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama joined seven U.S. senators Friday to urge Wal-Mart, America's largest importer, to drop opposition to a bill that would require scanning of all U.S.-bound cargo containers for possible terrorist nuclear bombs.

Nine senators, 21 members of the House of Representatives and a group of relatives of victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks signed letters to Wal-Mart Chief Executive Lee Scott as part of a campaign by WakeUpWalMart.com, a union-funded group critical of the retailer.

WakeUpWalMart.com said it was "mind-boggling" that Wal-Mart would oppose strengthening port safety and accused the retailer of putting profits before national security.

Wal-Mart said it supports enhanced port security but that it continues to oppose the scanning mandate because the technology has not been tested.
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spendius
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 06:41 pm
Roxy quoted-

Quote:
INDIANOLA, Iowa ?- Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., warned Democratic activists Sunday that the party must take a tougher stance on national security if it wants to succeed in the November elections.

"What Democrats have to do is to close the deal," said Obama, the keynote speaker at Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin's 29th annual steak fry. "We have got to show we have a serious agenda for change."


It wouldn't reassure me if I was on the front line. It has not one iota of meaning. It's hot air. Can't you see it?

You should start a fanzine.
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spendius
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 06:44 pm
What on earth does "strengthening port safety" mean.

They used to put a chain across the entrance in the old days.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 06:55 pm
spendius wrote:
Roxy quoted-

Quote:
INDIANOLA, Iowa ?- Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., warned Democratic activists Sunday that the party must take a tougher stance on national security if it wants to succeed in the November elections.

"What Democrats have to do is to close the deal," said Obama, the keynote speaker at Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin's 29th annual steak fry. "We have got to show we have a serious agenda for change."


It wouldn't reassure me if I was on the front line.


Very little danger of that.
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Foxfyre
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 06:57 pm
spendius wrote:
What on earth does "strengthening port safety" mean.

They used to put a chain across the entrance in the old days.


Well now apparently writing a letter to Wal-mart, who has no authority of any kind over port security, is getting TOUGH. Very Happy
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Roxxxanne
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 06:58 pm
spendius wrote:
What on earth does "strengthening port safety" mean.

They used to put a chain across the entrance in the old days.


Ah Duh! That would be port security like preventing terrorsits from bringing in material for a "dirty bomb" through our ports.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 07:06 pm
[quote="spendius" It's all hot air.[/quote]

So FF decries Obama not talking about something and when I prove her wrong, another Obama detractor calls it hot air. Amazing. Try paying attention:

More hot air:

The Problem

Six years after 9/11, our country is still unprepared for a terrorist attack. From improving security for our transit systems and chemical plants, to increasing cargo screening in our airports and seaports, the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission have been underfunded and ignored. The 9/11 Commission gave the government five F's and twelve D's on the implementation of its recommendations. Senator Obama is a member of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee and has supported efforts to base homeland security spending on risk rather than pork-barrel politics. He has also introduced legislation to strengthen chemical plant and drinking water security and to enhance disaster preparedness.
Barack Obama's Plan
Protecting Our Chemical Plants

Chemical plants are attractive terrorist targets because they are often located near cities, are relatively easy to attack, and contain multi-ton quantities of hazardous chemicals. While a number of plants have taken voluntary steps to improve security, there are still major gaps; and the federal government has never established meaningful, permanent security regulations. Senator Obama worked with Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) to introduce comprehensive chemical plant security legislation that would establish a clear set of federal regulations that all plants must follow. The bill requires chemical facilities to enhance security, including improving barriers, containment, mitigation, and safety training, and, where possible, using safer technology, such as less toxic chemicals.
Keeping Track of Spent Nuclear Fuel

The nation has 103 operating nuclear power plants which annually produce over 2,000 metric tons of spent fuel that remains highly radioactive for many years. A report by the Government Accountability Office found inadequate tracking and security for spent nuclear fuel rods. Nuclear plants in Connecticut, Vermont and California have reported missing spent fuel in the last five years. Senator Obama introduced legislation to establish guidelines for tracking, controlling, and accounting for spent fuel at nuclear power plants.
Evacuating Special Needs Population in Emergencies

One of the most devastating aspects of Hurricane Katrina is that most of the stranded victims were society's most vulnerable members - low-income families, the elderly, the homeless, and disabled Americans. Too many states and cities do not have adequate plans in place to care for special-needs populations. Senator Obama introduced and passed legislation to require mandatory planning for evacuating people with special needs.
Reuniting Families After Emergencies

After Hurricane Katrina, thousands of people struggled to contact family and friends following evacuation. Evacuees were forced to comb through dozens of databases in an effort to reconnect with loved ones. Senator Obama introduced and passed legislation to create a centralized, federal database to allow individuals displaced by an emergency to call one phone number or go to one website and post their location and condition. Family members and law enforcement officials would be able to use this same secure, centralized system to check the status of missing loved ones.
Keeping Our Drinking Water Safe

There are almost 170,000 public water systems in the United States. An attack on a drinking water system could contaminate or disrupt water service, thereby disrupting society, impacting human health and compromising critical activities such as fire protection. Senator Obama introduced legislation to provide $37.5 million over 5 years for drinking water systems to upgrade their monitoring and security efforts.
Protecting the Public from Radioactive Releases

Following reports that nuclear power plants in Illinois did not promptly notify local communities that tritium - a byproduct of nuclear generation - had leaked into the groundwater, Senator Obama introduced legislation to require nuclear plants to inform state and local officials if there is an unintentional leak of a radioactive substance. Chronic exposure to high levels of tritium can increase the risk of cancer, birth defects and genetic damage.
Barack Obama's Record

There have been tritium leaks at other nuclear plants, though none so extensive as at Braidwood. The uproar over Braidwood prompted the Nuclear Energy Institute to outline a voluntary policy for monitoring tritium leaks and reporting such incidents. Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) has vowed to continue to push for federal legislation that requires reporting. "The nuclear industry already had a voluntary policy, and it hasn't worked," he said. Exelon's past actions have helped to prove his point.

?- Chicago Tribune, Editorial, May 25, 2006
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 07:46 pm
Alienated in the U.S.A.

An unguarded comment from Michelle Obama speaks volumes about race and assimilation in modern America.

Mar 13, 2008

In Milwaukee, before the Wisconsin primary in mid-February, Michelle Obama made a remark that Republicans will use to hammer her husband should he win the Democratic nomination. "For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback," she said. Almost immediately, Cindy McCain told reporters, "I have and always will be proud of my country." Both Michelle and her husband tried to explain that what she really meant was that was proud to see so many people turn out to vote. But a lot of voters did and will wonder: how could someone who graduated from Princeton and Harvard Law School and won a job at a high-paying Chicago law firm?-who was in some way a beneficiary of affirmative action?-sound so alienated from her country?

The remark may have been just a slip under the relentless pressure of campaigning. But it may also reveal an edge of bitterness that Michelle Obama felt as a Princeton senior, when she was just entering her adult life. In the winter of that year, 1985, she wrote her thesis on the subject of "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community." The thesis is dense with sociological jargon about "dependent variables" and the like, but it also includes some strong personal sentiments. Though she came from a black working-class neighborhood in Chicago, she writes that "my experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my 'blackness' than ever before. I have found that at Princeton no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my White professors and classmates try to be towards me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don't belong. Regardless of the circumstances under which I interact with Whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, I will always be Black first and a student second." She further suggests that even if she assimilates into white society after Princeton, she will "remain on the periphery of society: never becoming a full participant."

Princeton in the early 1980s had been accepting blacks in significant numbers for less than two decades of its more than two-century history (none before World War II). Black students tended to self-segregate, as they did and still do on many campuses. Although, as she notes in the thesis, the university strongly encourages integration, there is still a fair amount of self-segregation at Princeton (where I teach a journalism course). Black students in Michelle's time embraced a "consciousness" attributable to "the injustices and oppressions suffered by this race of people which are not comparable to the experiences of any other race of people through this country's history," she writes.

For her thesis, Michelle surveyed 400 black Princeton alumni (about a fourth of whom responded). She writes that she was surprised?-and clearly disappointed?-to find that as these alums entered the wider world, in which they overwhelmingly reported great upward social mobility, they ceased to identify primarily with the black community.

Of course, the same happened to her when she entered the real world. Indeed, she somewhat reluctantly anticipates her fate in her thesis. She says that her sense of alienation while at Princeton sharpened her goal to "utilize my resources to benefit the Black community. At the same time, however, it is conceivable that my four years of exposure has instilled within me certain conservative values. For example, as I enter my final year in Princeton, I find myself striving for many of the same goals as my White classmates?-acceptance to a prestigious graduate or professional school or a high paying position in a successful corporation. Thus, my goals after Princeton are not as clear as before."

Michelle Obama is by now so well assimilated that she can wear a dress and pearls that are photocopies of the clothes and jewels worn by Jackie Kennedy?-and pull it off with grace and panache. At the same time, no one should doubt her blackness (or her husband's, as she has made clear more than once). She has found a way to thrive in any world that she wants. But it is perhaps unsurprising that, for an unguarded moment on the campaign trail, she reflected the alienation she felt at being a lonely working-class black woman at a rich white man's school long ago.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/123024
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 07:53 pm
nappy, Thanks for sharing that Newsweek article. It's interesting to see how different minorities in the US reacted to our varied experiences and opinions about our perceptions and opinions about them.
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okie
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 08:46 pm
Roxxxanne wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Sure I've heard him discuss them, but so far he hasn't said a single thing that I found reassuring. Go back to my previous post on this theme a page or two or three back. That's what I'm looking for.


Of course not. You want to hear racist buzzwords like "securing our borders." Obama's positions are not very assuring to those with a racist mindset.

Maybe Lou Dobbs will run and you can vote for him. After reading hundreds of your rants, I doubt that I would be re-assured by much of anything that a presidential candidate you would support said.


"securing our borders" is a racist buzzword? I knew you were bordering insane, but you need serious help.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 08:52 pm
okie wrote:

I knew you were bordering insane, but you need serious help.


Yep I might indeed be insane but you are an idiot, my insanity can be cured, you will be an idiot the rest of your life.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 08:55 pm
And for those of you with an IQ above that of a flea, "securing our borders" has become a euphemism for keeping Wetbacks out and it is indeed a racist buzzword.
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okie
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 09:00 pm
Aside from the posts you provide here which I think are totally unhinged, I would suggest you get help, seriously. What in the world have you undergone that has caused you to be in this state of affairs? Childhood? What is it? I sense that many liberals are very angry people, but in all seriousness, Roxxxanne, anger is very self destructive, and you need something to relieve your distress that is taking you nowhere.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 09:09 pm
If you think I am angry, you are really far more stupid than they everybody says you are.

And since you are so into psychoanalysis, look up the term projection.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 10:04 pm
This is one of the reasons I'm hesitant about how much Obama will be able to really accomplish as president.


Senate rejects plan to ban earmarks
By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 16 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - Senators in both political parties are insisting on their right to send pet projects back to their states, even though presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton joined with GOP nominee-in-waiting John McCain in voting to ban them for one year.
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Eva
 
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Thu 13 Mar, 2008 10:13 pm
I'm not totally convinced he can change things either, c.i.

But...wouldn't you rather we had someone who would TRY?
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Amigo
 
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Fri 14 Mar, 2008 03:14 am
The Media Repeats Stream of Lies About Obama



He's a Muslim. He was sworn into office on the Koran. He doesn't say the Pledge of Allegiance. His pastor is an anti-Semite. He's a tool of Louis Farrakhan. He's anti-Israel. His advisers are anti-Israel. He's friends with terrorists. The terrorists want him to win. He's the Antichrist.

http://www.alternet.org/election08/79627/

"What started as a largely overlooked fringe attack has been thrust into the mainstream -- used as GOP talking points"
------------------------------------------------------------

Supreme Court appears likely to back voter ID law

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A conservative majority of the Supreme Court appeared ready Wednesday to support an Indiana law requiring voters to show photo identification, despite concerns that it could deprive thousands of people of their right to vote.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/09/voter.id/
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