Obama '08?

I just wanted to leave a remark about this "blacker" issue, and comments that it is somehow something that just happened in the video editing process. I work in advertising (copywriter, [Big national advertising firm]). I sit in the rooms where the post production occurs, and this includes color correction. While things look different on many TVs, they don't look this dramatically different. Nothing that you see in a final advertisement is accidental. These things are looked at (or should be looked at if they are doing their jobs) second by second. Even more unforgiving is the stretching of the footage. It is possibly the result of laziness on the part of the editor, but it would have been easier to actually not stretch it, and just crop it.

Nothing in advertising is accidental. It is over-thought and then subjected to second thoughts and second guessing then over-thought and re-looked at again. I've been doing this ten years. It is my professional opinion that the film was made darker, and it has obviously been stretched. I will not comment on their reasons, as I can't offer an informed case for that.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

go to hell cyclo.

Reported.

You've devolved into some sort of parody of your former self.

Cycloptichorn

There were 370 Democratic delegates at stake in Tuesday's contests, and nearly complete returns showed Clinton outpaced Obama in Ohio, 74-65, in Rhode Island, 13-8, and in the Texas primary, 65-61.

Obama won in Vermont, 9-6, and was ahead in the Texas caucuses, 30-27. Ten of the dozen that remained to be awarded were in Texas; the other two in Ohio.

You'd have to be out of your mind to set rules that disenfranchise two of the largest states.

Do you think the national party wants those states sitting on their hands in protest in November?

They will seat the delegates, declare them 'free' from any pre-commitment and let them cast their votes.

They will go overwhelmingly for Hillary (who has been very vocal about including them), not for 'Present' Obama (who has not).

Hillary understands this, that is why she has played this like a fine fiddle.

'Present' still has no idea he has been sandbagged.

They will get to vote. You watch.

Even with them, Hillary may not be able to clinch on the first ballot or two.

We could still see a compromise candidate brought forward to unite the party.

Foxfyre wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

I don't think we can automatically assume that Michigan and Florida are out of play either. If one or both states actively pursues legal recourse to be seated at the convention, I don't think the Democratic Party can afford to not find some way for that to happen.

They don't have any legal recourse; that ship has already sailed. At this point it would be a re-vote or re-caucus to get seated.

Cycloptichorn

Yup. But can you see the Democrats disenfranchising two huge voting blocks like that and not figuring out some way to make that happen?

You'd have to be out of your mind to set rules that disenfranchise two of the largest states.

real life wrote:

You'd have to be out of your mind to set rules that disenfranchise two of the largest states.

Do you think the national party wants those states sitting on their hands in protest in November?

They will seat the delegates, declare them 'free' from any pre-commitment and let them cast their votes...

This is so wrong on so many levels, it could have been written by Bill Kristol.

What's Intrade now Bill?

What does it matter?
If they used legal tax shelters, so what?
We all try and do that

real life wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

I don't think we can automatically assume that Michigan and Florida are out of play either. If one or both states actively pursues legal recourse to be seated at the convention, I don't think the Democratic Party can afford to not find some way for that to happen.

They don't have any legal recourse; that ship has already sailed. At this point it would be a re-vote or re-caucus to get seated.

Cycloptichorn

Yup. But can you see the Democrats disenfranchising two huge voting blocks like that and not figuring out some way to make that happen?

You'd have to be out of your mind to set rules that disenfranchise two of the largest states.

Republicans and Independents should stay the f*ck out of our party's business. Canadians should stay the f*** out of our elections. '


Michigan and Florida disenfranchised themselves.

Canadians should stay the f*** out of our elections.

Roxxxanne wrote:

real life wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

I don't think we can automatically assume that Michigan and Florida are out of play either. If one or both states actively pursues legal recourse to be seated at the convention, I don't think the Democratic Party can afford to not find some way for that to happen.

They don't have any legal recourse; that ship has already sailed. At this point it would be a re-vote or re-caucus to get seated.

Cycloptichorn

Yup. But can you see the Democrats disenfranchising two huge voting blocks like that and not figuring out some way to make that happen?

You'd have to be out of your mind to set rules that disenfranchise two of the largest states.

Republicans and Independents should stay the f*ck out of our party's business. Canadians should stay the f*** out of our elections. '


Michigan and Florida disenfranchised themselves.

So now you are saying that American citizens have no right to voice their opinion about your candidates?
You really want to go down that road?

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Breaking!

Canadian PM said release of the "NAFTA-gate" memo may have been illegal and calls for an investigation.

Roxxxanne wrote:

Breaking!

Canadian PM said release of the "NAFTA-gate" memo may have been illegal and calls for an investigation.

Apparently the Canadian Om agrees with me that the Toreys should stay the f*** out of our elections.

Then you should stop making any comments about John McCain, shouldnt you.
After all, he isnt a dem, so you have no right to talk about him.

PA actually is more encouraging than I'd thought. More college students; more people with degrees (not a lot). There was something else too, lemme see if I can find it back...

Here we go!

http://dickpolman.blogspot.com/2008/03/onward-they-slog.html

Quote:

[..] For all the glib comparisons to Ohio, its rustbelt neighbor, there are significant differences that could aid Obama. Pennsylvania has a larger black population than Ohio, larger cities, and a larger student population. In contrast to Texas, it has a small Latino population. It has populous white liberal suburbs around Philadelphia.

mysteryman wrote:

Then you should stop making any comments about John McCain, shouldnt you.
After all, he isnt a dem, so you have no right to talk about him.

Apparently English is your second language. I said that you should stay the f*** out of out party business that doesn't apply to criticizing any possible nominee, it simply means you have no right to tell us how to run our party. And you don't.

Roxxxanne wrote:

mysteryman wrote:

Then you should stop making any comments about John McCain, shouldnt you.
After all, he isnt a dem, so you have no right to talk about him.

Apparently English is your second language. I said that you should stay the f*** out of out party business that doesn't apply to criticizing any possible nominee, it simply means you have no right to tell us how to run our party. And you don't.

Please show me where any national repub has tried to tell you how to run your party!!!

As far as I know, the repubs are enjoying watching the dems implode over the whole thing.
I know I am, and I'm not a repub.

mysteryman wrote:

Roxxxanne wrote:

mysteryman wrote:

Then you should stop making any comments about John McCain, shouldnt you.
After all, he isnt a dem, so you have no right to talk about him.

Apparently English is your second language. I said that you should stay the f*** out of out party business that doesn't apply to criticizing any possible nominee, it simply means you have no right to tell us how to run our party. And you don't.

Please show me where any national repub has tried to tell you how to run your party!!!

As far as I know, the repubs are enjoying watching the dems implode over the whole thing.
I know I am, and I'm not a repub.

And you sure ain't a Democrat.

Why don't you keep up on the news yourself. You are an embarassment.