nimh wrote:
Quote:Now what does it mean if one of these two candidates continually brings up his/her particular headwind as reason for the troubles she's facing, for the obstacles (s)he's failed to overcome or had to battle to overcome - or in general just keeps complaining that (s)he faces such a headwind - in this race?
In that context, it's little more than a red herring. The opponent faces the exact same kind of headwind. So there's no relative disadvantage there.
nimh
I never mind your take on things.
Two important points here. First, whatever Hillary has said about gender (or suggested, etc) doesn't much interest me and it certainly isn't what has caused me to think and yak about the subject as much as has happened. I actually consider her comments or those emanating from her campaign on this matter to be too self-serving or strategic to be of value. The red flags have come out of the broad discourse we here are all tuned into presently. She and Bill have complained of a couple of things - not gender related - with which I do agree (her comment on the number of times in debates where the first question went to her, and Bill's comment that the press has treated her shabbily) but I agree not because they say so but because it matches my perceptions.
The second point relates to gender vs race and which produces the more significant and difficult problem. Coming into race I assumed that race prejudices would prove the more significant. I don't think so now. The surprise of that goes a good way to explaining my interest/focus/obsession (feel free to choose).
Beth's post above gets it right, I think. There is just no way that the Wash Post column we've been referring to could have ever been published in even a small local paper if those sorts of derogatory stereotypes involved race. Likewise Dowd's 'joke'. And much, much more. The fellow who started C.U.N.T. wouldn't even have gotten in the door of Fox if his group had been N.I.G.G.E.R.
So there's something going on here which I had definitely not properly grasped. I think most people haven't either. I have some ideas about this but I need to let them move around a bit in my noggin (and I don't think this thread or maybe even this moment is the right place and time) because this amazing race between a black and a woman is really muddying up the whole matter.