Obama '08?

This is a biggie; people like to vote for winners.

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Obama is doing great in the early voting, from what can be told be stats and location and some guessing.

Wanna know why he's going to win? Stuff like this, a little comment I read on DKos -

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No.. this ISN'T a candidate bashing diary.. nor is a "Hillary sucks"

But what it is.. is a small short story showing WHY Obama is so damn strong.

Its very simple.. and I'm damn amazed in some ways why I've never thought of it before..

Right now Ohio has Early voting.. in Most cities.. till 8pm

Obama is very simply.. after a rally.. telling folks.. if they want to vote now.. the campaign has buses waiting.. they will TAKE YOU THERE AND BRING YOU BACK.

Its mind numbingly simple.. and brilliant.

Look even those who can't stand the man.. freely admit.. he's got a GREAT orator skills.. and after a rally.. caught up in pro -obama fevor (even if you have some thoughts otherwise later on) to be able to take thos folks.. who want to .. TO The polls RIGHT THEN and vote..

What a good idea.

They also get you to send a text message sometimes during rallies; and then sign you up. A couple of hours after the event, you get a phone call telling ya that you are important to their campaign, and here's a list of easy ways to participate.

Shocked

Who thinks up this stuff? Good thinking.

Cycloptichorn

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I don't think I would count on that, C.I.

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Yep. Another thing -- there are "preferred seating" tickets available before the rally on Wednesday. There's a place downtown you can go and get them (free). That just so happens to be right across from the early voting location for Franklin County. Pick up your tickets, then go across the street and vote.

The post-rally thing bothers me a bit, though. What if they DO have second thoughts? Would rather just let them stew and figure it out.

Pre-rally doesn't bother me.

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Yep was to Cycloptichorn, but yep to RJB too. I'm definitely not counting on an Obama win in Ohio, not yet anyway.

I do take C.I.'s point about people wanting to vote for winners. The numbers were big, too. Here:

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Nearly 6 in 10 say he has the best chance of beating Mr. McCain, double the numbers who believed Mrs. Clinton was more electable.

Oh, one good thing... Obama yard signs are sprouting! Saw five today without really looking and without going far. Some others for local politicians, none for Hillary.

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sozobe wrote:

Now, Obama looks like he is the one who is more electable. So people are switching. That makes sense, and is well within the purpose of superdelegates.

I saw on the news the 3 superdelegates have switched. 3. It's not like there's a tidal wave of Clinton's SDs going over to Obama.

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Roxxxanne wrote:

And they call Obama "Messianic?"

Actually, that was YOU!

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maporsche wrote:

Roxxxanne wrote:
And they call Obama "Messianic?"

Actually, that was YOU!

Excellent point Maporche!

All seriousness aside, how ticked off are Clinton supporters by the sort of shots Roxy and her Obama pals are taking at the Clintons?

Not to pick on Roxy, but isn't there a sort of recurrent theme in evidence?

It doesn't really matter what the politics of the Other might be, it's enough that they are the Other and not favored. So Hillary and Bill get the same shite dumped on them as George Bush and Dick Cheney. Suddenly Maporche, Lola and Bipo are not a hell of a lot better than fell Finn.

It's enough to make one wonder what the tribal boundries may actually be.

Will you all go back to being swell pals after the election?

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Finn, We are swell pals before, during, and after the elctions. I've met people I've had disagreements with on a2k, but we all got along just fine at a2k gatherings.

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nimh wrote:

georgeob1 wrote:
The fact is I have visited the Obama web site and have read some of the material there. I have also listened to some of his speeches and watched a couple of the debates. I detect that the central - and by far most effective politically - focus of his rhetoric has been the uniquely uplifting character of the non specific elements in it. In short it isn't so much the details of "his plan" for (say) Health Care that has got him to where he is today as it is the overall quality of the "Change" message he has delivered so eloquently and with such effect.

How is this different from any other politician running for President?

He's much more effective at the more ambiguous uplifting part.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

Finn, We are swell pals before, during, and after the elctions. I've met people I've had disagreements with on a2k, but we all got along just fine at a2k gatherings.

You know CI even you and I might be swell pals if we met face to face. This intense nonsense we all indulge in probably doesn't have all that much to do with whether or not we might like one another. Believe it or not, I have dear friends who are more insanely Liberal than you. In fact I have a son who makes blatham seem like Irving Kristol, and yet I love him so.

Yet here in the cyber-world of political debate, sometimes people reveal a little more of themselves than they would like. If you're OK with taking a snotty shot from a one time ally because you support Obama over Hillary, then who I am to question the dynamic?

Others might not be so OK though, and so the question I posed is directed to a wider swath than just you.

Thanks for responding though...seriously.

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When I have siblings that are 190 degrees in contrast to my religious and political beliefs, I have to have a broad mind. I even have differences with my wife about who to vote for in November; she's voting for Hillary, and I'm still waiting for the blood-bath to settle down before I make my final choice (but it won't be Hillary).

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If its not Hillary, and you don't like McCain anymore, then whos left, ci? What is there to make up your mind about, unless you are going for Nader?

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There's another choice, okie; none of the above.

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So its Obama and who? If its only Obama, then what kind of a big choice is there to decide for you?

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High Seas wrote:

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"...... this is the saddest election I've ever worked in," said Ginger Grossman, a prominent Democratic organizer in Miami-Dade County, who says she hears countless Jewish liberals tell her they won't vote for Obama if he wins the nomination.

"It's outrageous,..... I know it's because he's black, or I feel it is," said Grossman, a Clinton supporter .....

http://www.sptimes.com/2008/02/25/Worldandnation/Party_frets_over_frac.shtml

Maybe it's because he supports anti-Semites and they support him................

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cicerone imposter wrote:

We've had enough divisiveness under Bush; I doubt very much Hillary has that much influence with voters who see her whining ways - and attempts to divide. She's already lost it.

She's a great uniter for the left. Except that you won't vote for her. Other than that , I mean. Laughing

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SNL has fun with the media's love for Obama. Funny.

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/#mea=221776

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cicerone imposter wrote:

When I have siblings that are 190 degrees in contrast to my religious and political beliefs, I have to have a broad mind. I even have differences with my wife about who to vote for in November; she's voting for Hillary, (but it won't be Hillary).

and I'm still waiting for the blood-bath to settle down before I make my final choice

okie, I wish you would read my posts before you ask stupid q's.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

There's another choice, okie; none of the above.

I think this is the most intellectually honest and, even, noble course you can follow CI.

I can respect your decision not to vote for McCain, and so there really is only one choice available to you --- stay home on Election Day.

Do so and I know we shall be swell pals. Cool

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