Obama '08?

Hope so! Really can't tell yet.

Meanwhile, what kind of a typo was this?





OHIO. Throughout Ohio.

Just some thoughts about "experience" that Hillary seems to ride on.

George W Bush had four years in the white house, and look what happened during the second four years. Experience.

Hillary's experience tells us what? That she voted to approve the war in Iraq. It took her *35 years of experience to make that decision.

Name the presidents that didn't have the "experience" like Hillary (wife of a gov, senator from New York, first lady, and "when I'm president") and still did a better job in the white house than most?

George W Bush, gov of Texas?
Jimmy Carter, gov of GA?
Experience is still a crapshoot.

Bush's inexperience in his 1st term is what got us into the war to begin with.

I think that was a lot more than his inexperience.

Wow. Damn.

So much for feeling "honored, truly honored" to share that debate platform with Obama, eh?

She'll truly say anything. Anything.

nimh, Just caught on? LOL

I showed the clip to Anastasia just now, without any introduction beyond that it was at a Clinton campaign event and that it was a clip of her mocking Obama, and asked her whether she thought it'd work.

She said, "I think it's just going to drive a bigger gap still between Hillary and Obama supporters." The way she's going on against Obama, "I'm guessing a lot of Hillary supporters are looking at Nader now" if Obama wins.

Seems right to me. Hillary has slimming chances to win the nomination, but she still has plenty power to convince her loyal followers that Obama is some kind of pathetic figure. To the point where a bunch of them will vote for McCain or Nader instead. Doesnt seem like she cares anymore about any of that, or not enough to stop herself.

Said Anastasia also: "She wont be able to campaign for Obama anymore now, after having said this stuff", if he wins the nomination. Seems right to me. Not credibly, anyhow.

Even if these kind of flaming attacks energize her resentful core supporters, I dont see them winning over any new converts to her candidacy. It just looks ugly to neutral observers, no? But I guess maybe that isnt the point. If she can demotivate and deflate as much as possible of the optimism and energy about Obama's campaign, maybe she's reasoning, turnout will go down and the loyal party faithful will have enough votes again to edge out a victory for her.

But none of that will endear her to elected Democrats, will it - you know, Senators and Representatives who need all those new voters Obama is bringing in. So this tack cant be good for her pursuit of superdelegates..

I dont know, seems like she's just venting her frustration now.

Poor Hillary. She's lost it completely despite the fine words she plagiarized from Edwards at the end of the last debate. I have doubts many of her supporters will follow suit. I suspect Dems will be extremely united in November.

We've had enough divisiveness under Bush; I doubt very much Hillary has that much influence with voters who see her whining ways - and attempts to divide. She's already lost it.

We once observed Hillary as a confident woman; she's now turned into a shrill.

So one day Hillary plays the gracious team player, and humbly offers that she is "honored, truly honored" to stand with Obama as the candidates for the nomination. The next day she's off ranting against just how pathetic, credulous and naive his campaign is.

What strikes me most is that it seems like the Clinton campaign has no overarching concept or message anymore, no guiding star; it's like they're blindly grasping for one approach today, the opposite approach tomorrow - hoping that somehow, something will stick or work.

That reminds me of this observation that I still had pasted in Notepad from earlier - it's Eugene Robinson in the WaPo:

"Most striking of all, to me, is that the campaign still can't settle on what kind of candidate Hillary Clinton should be. Does she now have to go negative, or should she try to hitchhike on the hope express? Does she project steely resolve or reveal human vulnerability? The campaign wants to convince voters that they don't know who Obama really is -- yet also insists on fitting Clinton with a new persona every week."

She's always been a shrill, as long as I've observed her.

I read ci's post and was going to say the exact same thing, then I scrolled down and saw you had already posted it. So, yes, exact same thoughts, I have always perceived her as shrill, so I am glad it is finally dawning on ci at last, after how many years now?

Tico beat me to it.

I noticed a shrillness in one of her TV spots, and did find it very off putting. I think that the shrillness has to do with the timbre of the feminine voice. The tone of women's voices tend to go higher when they are excited or anxious.

This can be perceived as shrillness, whereas the woman is simply expressing emotion through her voice. I would expect that her latest losses have caused her much anxiety, which is expressing itself in the tone of her voice.

that, or maybe she's a shrill.



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Obama will be here on Wednesday -- just got the invite.

Sozlet really-really wants to go. It's at 10:00 AM on a schoolday. I dunno. What do y'all think?

I think you should take her with you.

There's more than one place to get an education on a given Wednesday morning. She'll make up what she misses easily (just like when she has a sick day) and the experience will stay with her forever.

I agree with JPB. I think that it would be an experience that she will never forget.

I've seen parents with kids at several outdoor rallies. The kids spent most of the time on the parent's shoulders so they could see. In one of the early issues of the Sacramento for Obama newsletter I published we had photos of kids and parents at the Oakland rally. One of them in particular was of a father, his son and his son's toddler all there to witness history together.

How will the Sozlet do as far as handling the long wait in line and the big crowds and the loud noise?